Uh no. It’s a scope problem. We’re closing a base and losing flying while a subcontractor is thriving. 100% a scope problem.

The base may be closing but you have no proof the flying is going away. We don’t know yet.

Are the 767 lines taking your flying too?

PM going through a list of airlines that are out of business (and two that aren’t actually out of business in the context presented) and blaming their business failures on Scope was the second most elementary and insulting part of his update.

That's NOT what he said. Again, your butthurt feelings about the downturn at FedEx has warped your thinking.

PM, clearly said how there's a balance between tying the company's hands at a time when they're most focused on competing and they're concerned about the overall company survival compared to its competitors. Will FedEx management compete better with UPS and DHL to preserve everybody's jobs.

He used the backdrop of huge contract wins, huge scope wins and they meant nothing if the company ended up going out of business.

$5 billion in share repurchases in the last 18 months and two dividend raises in the last 12… and we’re worried that better contract language will make the company uncompetitive?

Both can be true. Management has made some significant mistakes lately. Why do you think there's a big push to get our yields close to UPS and DHL's and merge all three companies?

FedEx just announced 29 Freight locations closing today. This is just the beginning. It is going to be a long 4-5 years for those at the bottom.

I dont think there is currently an existential threat to FedEx’s survival(besides management). If there was, we wouldn’t be buying back all this stock and paying higher dividends. By competing, I think the true meaning is competing for the most profitable and highest share price possible partly due to outsourcing high cost labor. When said labor is outsourced, we will either need less pilots(didn’t preserve jobs), or will shrink due to attrition(No growth for new guys).

I get that we can’t reopen scope at this point in negotiations, and that our original priorities are being negotiated for. But this isn’t April of 2021 anymore. If they get a TA and it doesn’t pass, we need to re evaluate our priorities as a whole. Ive got 20 years left, I can wait a couple more if it means a more secure future. It really is a shame that like PM said, every month people are retiring with no pension increase. I really mean that. But, 56% of those people that retire every month voted yes in 2015 to a contract that didn’t raise then pension when they had a chance to.

Your last statement is BS. You don't know which 56% voted yes for the contract in 2015. Most of them probably already left.

Doesn’t really matter ultimately. The A fund needs to be improved every contract until we negotiate one with built in COLA increases, same with all portions of the contract otherwise we won’t escape the “whack a mole” nature of our negotiations where we only focus on fixing 1-2 things at a time and even give the company givebacks.

Even if they voted no in 2015 they still didn’t rattle the cage loud enough to get others to vote no. “Well I voted no” isn’t a good enough excuse for not fixing the retirement in 2015 and it won’t be a good enough enough excuse for not fixing scope this round. “We’ll get em next time” or “we can’t fix it now” is not acceptable. Our job security is far less than that of even a UPS pilot, and it’s under immediate attack.

Fair enough. How many people have left since the last contract was signed though? Maybe 120 ish a year? That would be close to 840 pilots, around 25 percent of the seniority list back then. Assuming they all voted yes, that still leaves a TON of yes voters still on property. Maybe I should have just said that I found issue with PM mentioning how terrible it is when people are retiring with no improvement and implying that the 50% of the company hired since the last contract would be selfish to sabotage the new retirement for trying to shore up scope(if that’s even possible). I think number he said is 7-10 a month retiring. We were hiring close to 40-50 a month for the last 6 years. Those guys count too.