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PurpleToolBox 05-01-2023 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by magic rat (Post 3631176)
ASL CDG scheduled departures 2May.

You haven't made a point.

Rum Runner 05-01-2023 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox (Post 3631277)
You haven't made a point.

Seriously? He's made the entire point. What other point are you looking for?

Tomorrow morning, May 2nd, the following cities will be flown from CDG by ASL pilots that until recently, were flown by FedEx CGN pilots.

ARN
BER
CGN (Irony)
CPH
OPO
BUD
HEL

Other posters, including myself, have outlined the block hour decrease in CGN. If you don't see what's happening right now...can't really help you.

coryk 05-01-2023 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox (Post 3631277)
You haven't made a point.

Did you not see mine?

magic rat 05-01-2023 12:46 PM

It’s also obvious to me that fdx planned this ASL transfer a looooong time ago…easily a year or so before they broke ground on the new ramp space. They didn’t just turn this on when coming up with DRIVE, they knew, they had to get funding for the build by showing it’ll save them money.

PurpleToolBox 05-01-2023 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by coryk (Post 3631246)
Do you fly over here? I'm a 757 CA here in EUR.

I flew a week of BER hub turns last summer, ASL does that now. I flew to BUD this winter, ASL does that now. I went to Porto, Portugal... ASL. We stopped flying to CPH and HEL to pick up those other cities... well, ASL just does all of them now. Oh, and the base is closing.

Last year we had 36 hard lines with a BLG of 76 for a 4-week bid month and 7 VTO's, plus 5 R lines. For May we have 34, with a BLG of 66. 11 VTO's and 17 R lines. If we didn't lose flying, well, idk where it went then.

36 to 34 doesn't sound like the sky is falling. What is the company and union telling you guys? Seems to me, and yes I agree it sucks, that they down gauged from 757 to 737 on some routes. Are there still Airbus and 767 routes? Did those go away too?

I put in an Insite to the company. Now I get it that this is from Flight Operations and not the C Suite Managers but they said the flying will be filled via SIBA or lines flown from the USA, like they did before CGN base.

PurpleToolBox 05-01-2023 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by magic rat (Post 3631312)
It’s also obvious to me that fdx planned this ASL transfer a looooong time ago…easily a year or so before they broke ground on the new ramp space. They didn’t just turn this on when coming up with DRIVE, they knew, they had to get funding for the build by showing it’ll save them money.

What are they "turning off"?

PurpleToolBox 05-01-2023 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Rum Runner (Post 3631293)
Seriously? He's made the entire point. What other point are you looking for?

Tomorrow morning, May 2nd, the following cities will be flown from CDG by ASL pilots that until recently, were flown by FedEx CGN pilots.

ARN
BER
CGN (Irony)
CPH
OPO
BUD
HEL

Other posters, including myself, have outlined the block hour decrease in CGN. If you don't see what's happening right now...can't really help you.

Are you guys living under a rock in Europe? The block hours are down every where, except maybe 777.

Another poster said it was two lines less. Did they move the 757s to other routes?

UnusualAttitude 05-01-2023 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox (Post 3631330)
36 to 34 doesn't sound like the sky is falling. What is the company and union telling you guys? Seems to me, and yes I agree it sucks, that they down gauged from 757 to 737 on some routes.

We don’t fly 737’s in case you haven’t noticed. So that down-gauging equals outsourcing, likely on a permanent basis. If freight requires more lift then expect ASL to get larger jets.

coryk 05-01-2023 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox (Post 3631330)
36 to 34 doesn't sound like the sky is falling. What is the company and union telling you guys? Seems to me, and yes I agree it sucks, that they down gauged from 757 to 737 on some routes. Are there still Airbus and 767 routes? Did those go away too?

I put in an Insite to the company. Now I get it that this is from Flight Operations and not the C Suite Managers but they said the flying will be filled via SIBA or lines flown from the USA, like they did before CGN base.

Only down 2 lines because they are able to build into the 60’s with 5-10hrs buy up. Nearly twice the amount of secondary and reserve lines.

PurpleToolBox 05-01-2023 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by coryk (Post 3631351)
Only down 2 lines because they are able to build into the 60’s with 5-10hrs buy up. Nearly twice the amount of secondary and reserve lines.

This sounds more the an economy or sales problem, not a scope problem.

You didn’t mention what the union or company has said about this.


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