Much of the freight that the Morningstar guys carry is going East-West in Canada and never goes to the US. I commuted out YYZ which has a sort facility. Those guys do some rough hub turns with multiple legs going across the country. I believe the reason we don’t fly that is because it is mostly (if not all) inter-Canada.

UPS sold its Freight division over 2 years ago. They decided freight is not profitable enough, unlike Fedex. Volume is definitely down, no doubt, but the fact that revenue only decreased slightly means pricing power is holding up, for now. Net margins still in the 11-12%, which is much higher than industry average.

And your knowledge of applicability of US Labor Law is spotless 🙄.

Wow, Hopefully your not connected to the NC!

That is from the union. Where’s your facts to prove otherwise?

That ship apparently sailed when we bought TNT. The EU wouldn’t let us fly everything, steal all of the EU flying jobs. The union said that’s what the TNT deal required. Don’t blame me. Our 777s took all of the ASL 747 routes. You probably weren’t around to witness the donnybrooks between TNT and FDX crews in CDG and LGG? I agree that I don’t want to lose any flying, you’re not getting those jobs with a magical sentence thrown into the CBA.

What part of the TNT merger said we had to grow the TNT/ASL 737 operation?

Yeah, not a single part of it. You using a vague EU requirement to not reduce jobs to argue that we shouldn’t be mad if management elects to grow them instead of us…. You are the definition of feckless.

The ship has sailed on what we have lost so far, yes. At least you now understand and agree that we have lost flying to ASL. And no, the TNT deal did not require that flying go to ASL, whoever told you that is incorrect, or your misunderstood. Management actually sold the TNT acquisition as a path to a lot more flying for our pilots in EUR - the routes we had for the last 10 years, plus many more routes out of LGG.

There is still a lot of flying we can lose going forward. That is the flying we should be fighting to protect, this time around. It's not 'stealing EU flying', it is flying our company's freight on routes we operated for over a decade.

I get you want to retire under this upcoming CBA with a better pension, makes sense. I am also able to go under this next CBA if I go as planned at 55, but still I'm not willing to Vote Y and leave the fight for better scope and to protect our current int'l flying to the next round. It will definitely be too late by then.

The fact that company stooge oncewasNoWork is echoing your every post, should clue you in to your stance.

what rules, please, tell me? then get back to making pancakes.