This TA needs to pass!!!
06-15-2023, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pinseeker
This poster is obviously not a Fedex pilot. Just look at the statements. No R24 before the 2015 contract? 2021 wages? Not to mention the messed up sayings such as a gifted horse. This person is just an internet troll trying to cause problems. Just put them on your ignore list and stop replying to their drivel.
Because you don’t agree with me you call it drivel!!!
You point out how I might have messed up some sayings instead of the points I made about the contract, so you must agree with my points!
!!!!VOTE YES!!!!
. And one thing you can count on is that it will keep on giving.
06-15-2023, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BoomerBus
Pinseeker you sound like a certain political party that attacks and tries to silence anyone you don’t agree with instead of having an intelligent conversation.
Because you don’t agree with me you call it drivel!!!
You point out how I might have messed up some sayings instead of the points I made about the contract, so you must agree with my points!
!!!!VOTE YES!!!!
Because you don’t agree with me you call it drivel!!!
You point out how I might have messed up some sayings instead of the points I made about the contract, so you must agree with my points!
!!!!VOTE YES!!!!
06-15-2023, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BoomerBus
OK I have to chime in after reading all this misinformation, whining, and MEC/ALPA bashing.
These are my points, like it or not the silent majority must speak out!!!!
1. My New Hire pay was $2000.00 a month and I was happy and proud to be at FedEx. This TA raises it to 6 to 8K a month. Quit whining!
2. I know MEC leadership personally and know the did the absolute best they could and better than any of you naysayers could have done!
3. I will definitely be a YES vote and hope all you uninformed naysayers will be educated over the next month or so and also vote YES.
4. I am happy with the retirement improvements and Pay increases. I know of an Airline that got a true industry leading contract in 2000 and shortly after that went bankrupt! Is that what you want for FedEx?
5. R24 to R16. We didn’t even have R24 before 2015 contract, so be happy that we still have some form of it.
6. All this Scope talk, well it was not even an issue in the surveys that we all submitted, so why is it such a big deal to some of you now? You can’t just keep moving the goal posts during negotiations.
This may have ruffled a few feathers, that’s good you all need to wake up and realize that this TA is a light years ahead of the 2015 contract and be happy and thankful for all the hard work PM and the MEC put into it.
Now that everybody has had a few days to throw their temper tantrums, let’s now let cooler heads prevail!
If this TA gets voted down the amount of lost wages and lost retirement income for 2 years will almost be impossible to recuperate.
The Company will be laughing all the way to the bank and we will be stuck with 2021 wages and substandard Retirement from last contract for 2 more years.
Wake up people!! Take what we got and address all the minor little issues, I.e. R24, AVA, etc with the next contract.
“Bird in hand better than two in bush”, “Don’t look a gifted horse in the mouth”
The silent Majority
!!!!!YES!!!!!
These are my points, like it or not the silent majority must speak out!!!!
1. My New Hire pay was $2000.00 a month and I was happy and proud to be at FedEx. This TA raises it to 6 to 8K a month. Quit whining!
2. I know MEC leadership personally and know the did the absolute best they could and better than any of you naysayers could have done!
3. I will definitely be a YES vote and hope all you uninformed naysayers will be educated over the next month or so and also vote YES.
4. I am happy with the retirement improvements and Pay increases. I know of an Airline that got a true industry leading contract in 2000 and shortly after that went bankrupt! Is that what you want for FedEx?
5. R24 to R16. We didn’t even have R24 before 2015 contract, so be happy that we still have some form of it.
6. All this Scope talk, well it was not even an issue in the surveys that we all submitted, so why is it such a big deal to some of you now? You can’t just keep moving the goal posts during negotiations.
This may have ruffled a few feathers, that’s good you all need to wake up and realize that this TA is a light years ahead of the 2015 contract and be happy and thankful for all the hard work PM and the MEC put into it.
Now that everybody has had a few days to throw their temper tantrums, let’s now let cooler heads prevail!
If this TA gets voted down the amount of lost wages and lost retirement income for 2 years will almost be impossible to recuperate.
The Company will be laughing all the way to the bank and we will be stuck with 2021 wages and substandard Retirement from last contract for 2 more years.
Wake up people!! Take what we got and address all the minor little issues, I.e. R24, AVA, etc with the next contract.
“Bird in hand better than two in bush”, “Don’t look a gifted horse in the mouth”
The silent Majority
!!!!!YES!!!!!
2. Emotional argument. Nope
3. Good for you.. That convinces me.. Nope
4. Because you’re happy with that, we should be? Were you not here for Covid? Nope
5. Who’s misinformed? Nope
6. Drive makes scope a big deal! Huge change in priorities! Furlough while wet lease. Nope
You don’t even realize but your bullet points actually make a better argument against this POS TA
06-15-2023, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BoomerBus
OK I have to chime in after reading all this misinformation, whining, and MEC/ALPA bashing.
These are my points, like it or not the silent majority must speak out!!!!
1. My New Hire pay was $2000.00 a month and I was happy and proud to be at FedEx. This TA raises it to 6 to 8K a month. Quit whining!
2. I know MEC leadership personally and know the did the absolute best they could and better than any of you naysayers could have done!
3. I will definitely be a YES vote and hope all you uninformed naysayers will be educated over the next month or so and also vote YES.
4. I am happy with the retirement improvements and Pay increases. I know of an Airline that got a true industry leading contract in 2000 and shortly after that went bankrupt! Is that what you want for FedEx?
5. R24 to R16. We didn’t even have R24 before 2015 contract, so be happy that we still have some form of it.
6. All this Scope talk, well it was not even an issue in the surveys that we all submitted, so why is it such a big deal to some of you now? You can’t just keep moving the goal posts during negotiations.
This may have ruffled a few feathers, that’s good you all need to wake up and realize that this TA is a light years ahead of the 2015 contract and be happy and thankful for all the hard work PM and the MEC put into it.
Now that everybody has had a few days to throw their temper tantrums, let’s now let cooler heads prevail!
If this TA gets voted down the amount of lost wages and lost retirement income for 2 years will almost be impossible to recuperate.
The Company will be laughing all the way to the bank and we will be stuck with 2021 wages and substandard Retirement from last contract for 2 more years.
Wake up people!! Take what we got and address all the minor little issues, I.e. R24, AVA, etc with the next contract.
“Bird in hand better than two in bush”, “Don’t look a gifted horse in the mouth”
The silent Majority
!!!!!YES!!!!!
These are my points, like it or not the silent majority must speak out!!!!
1. My New Hire pay was $2000.00 a month and I was happy and proud to be at FedEx. This TA raises it to 6 to 8K a month. Quit whining!
2. I know MEC leadership personally and know the did the absolute best they could and better than any of you naysayers could have done!
3. I will definitely be a YES vote and hope all you uninformed naysayers will be educated over the next month or so and also vote YES.
4. I am happy with the retirement improvements and Pay increases. I know of an Airline that got a true industry leading contract in 2000 and shortly after that went bankrupt! Is that what you want for FedEx?
5. R24 to R16. We didn’t even have R24 before 2015 contract, so be happy that we still have some form of it.
6. All this Scope talk, well it was not even an issue in the surveys that we all submitted, so why is it such a big deal to some of you now? You can’t just keep moving the goal posts during negotiations.
This may have ruffled a few feathers, that’s good you all need to wake up and realize that this TA is a light years ahead of the 2015 contract and be happy and thankful for all the hard work PM and the MEC put into it.
Now that everybody has had a few days to throw their temper tantrums, let’s now let cooler heads prevail!
If this TA gets voted down the amount of lost wages and lost retirement income for 2 years will almost be impossible to recuperate.
The Company will be laughing all the way to the bank and we will be stuck with 2021 wages and substandard Retirement from last contract for 2 more years.
Wake up people!! Take what we got and address all the minor little issues, I.e. R24, AVA, etc with the next contract.
“Bird in hand better than two in bush”, “Don’t look a gifted horse in the mouth”
The silent Majority
!!!!!YES!!!!!
06-15-2023, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by UnusualAttitude
Pinseeker has been a vocal supporter of the MEC/NC even when others weren’t. If when Pinseeker isn’t impressed with this TA, it should tell you something.
Dude, more ineptitude! I have not been a vocal supporter of the MEC/NC, I have been a supporter letting the process finish since we were down to one item. I have always said that I would read the TA and evaluate it on it's merits or lack there of. I was hoping for a great TA, not the POS that we were given. There is a process in place. Now it's our turn to vote or make it so abundantly clear to the MEC that this will fail miserably that they decide to pull their support of the TA and send the NC back before the vote opens.
06-15-2023, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BoomerBus
OK I have to chime in after reading all this misinformation, whining, and MEC/ALPA bashing.
These are my points, like it or not the silent majority must speak out!!!!
1. My New Hire pay was $2000.00 a month and I was happy and proud to be at FedEx. This TA raises it to 6 to 8K a month. Quit whining!
2. I know MEC leadership personally and know the did the absolute best they could and better than any of you naysayers could have done!
3. I will definitely be a YES vote and hope all you uninformed naysayers will be educated over the next month or so and also vote YES.
4. I am happy with the retirement improvements and Pay increases. I know of an Airline that got a true industry leading contract in 2000 and shortly after that went bankrupt! Is that what you want for FedEx?
5. R24 to R16. We didn’t even have R24 before 2015 contract, so be happy that we still have some form of it.
6. All this Scope talk, well it was not even an issue in the surveys that we all submitted, so why is it such a big deal to some of you now? You can’t just keep moving the goal posts during negotiations.
This may have ruffled a few feathers, that’s good you all need to wake up and realize that this TA is a light years ahead of the 2015 contract and be happy and thankful for all the hard work PM and the MEC put into it.
Now that everybody has had a few days to throw their temper tantrums, let’s now let cooler heads prevail!
If this TA gets voted down the amount of lost wages and lost retirement income for 2 years will almost be impossible to recuperate.
The Company will be laughing all the way to the bank and we will be stuck with 2021 wages and substandard Retirement from last contract for 2 more years.
Wake up people!! Take what we got and address all the minor little issues, I.e. R24, AVA, etc with the next contract.
“Bird in hand better than two in bush”, “Don’t look a gifted horse in the mouth”
The silent Majority
!!!!!YES!!!!!
These are my points, like it or not the silent majority must speak out!!!!
1. My New Hire pay was $2000.00 a month and I was happy and proud to be at FedEx. This TA raises it to 6 to 8K a month. Quit whining!
2. I know MEC leadership personally and know the did the absolute best they could and better than any of you naysayers could have done!
3. I will definitely be a YES vote and hope all you uninformed naysayers will be educated over the next month or so and also vote YES.
4. I am happy with the retirement improvements and Pay increases. I know of an Airline that got a true industry leading contract in 2000 and shortly after that went bankrupt! Is that what you want for FedEx?
5. R24 to R16. We didn’t even have R24 before 2015 contract, so be happy that we still have some form of it.
6. All this Scope talk, well it was not even an issue in the surveys that we all submitted, so why is it such a big deal to some of you now? You can’t just keep moving the goal posts during negotiations.
This may have ruffled a few feathers, that’s good you all need to wake up and realize that this TA is a light years ahead of the 2015 contract and be happy and thankful for all the hard work PM and the MEC put into it.
Now that everybody has had a few days to throw their temper tantrums, let’s now let cooler heads prevail!
If this TA gets voted down the amount of lost wages and lost retirement income for 2 years will almost be impossible to recuperate.
The Company will be laughing all the way to the bank and we will be stuck with 2021 wages and substandard Retirement from last contract for 2 more years.
Wake up people!! Take what we got and address all the minor little issues, I.e. R24, AVA, etc with the next contract.
“Bird in hand better than two in bush”, “Don’t look a gifted horse in the mouth”
The silent Majority
!!!!!YES!!!!!
TROLL POST, move along. That or an actual Airbus boomer captain in the wild. Either way this should be disregarded.
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