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Originally Posted by BrianH (Post 3672929)

First off, we are in mediation. The NMB owns the process from here. So they are mandatory at this point.

Second, The MEC did not do its job. Most wrote unflattering comms talking down to us. They did not represent us. Those who did will be judged by their councils.

Third, with the numbers put out my the MEC Chair, no two items are going to fix this to a 50% +1. Retirement, pay, and SCOPE must be addressed. And SMU, and 100% sell back are gone as well (my guess).

The good news is we can do all this by peak IF the company truly wants good labor relations as the global economy starts to grow again.

Lol. That’s funny.

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Originally Posted by Nightflyer (Post 3673570)

That was....unconscionable.

Utterly unconscionable…. Especially after he tell us to stay off social media. Stay in your lane Mrs M.

We don’t want TA 1.5.

almost everything about TA 1.0 was a total failure and that makes it a horrible platform to build on.

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Originally Posted by WilsonFDX (Post 3681013)

Wilson Says TonyTicker is live https://www.fdxjetflyers.com/ticker/tonyticker.html

You are so salty 😂😂😂

I love it. Hopefully it keeps you up at night, you’ll need that skill when the postal contract is done and you’re back to flying domestic AM hub turns.

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Originally Posted by Grease (Post 3673497)

Brown guy here with a question: was there a movement from pilots to sunset the A plan prior to the TA coming out, or was this a total surprise like it was to us outsiders? Where did the idea come from? Thanks!

no you would have to be completely oblivious to not know that was the plan IF we wanted to improve A plan for those on property. That was talked about among LECs for years. It was either that OR go with something like a PSPP/MBCBP for all and a bonus of sorts for those retiring soon. Crew force was tepid for PSPP to begin with. Cutler himself was HUGE on improving A plan and knew that the only way to do it was to sunset it.

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Originally Posted by Freighthumper (Post 3674160)

No surprise. The NC spent millions on developing a new plan for retirement that they tried to sell the company outside of section 6 about 5 years ago. The company laughed and said no thanks.

millions? How ignorant are you? Ever ask your rep or just determine that for yourself. Well under $1mil - you have to ask to know though - or you can keep spewing complete BS on social media. Hope your wife is in charge of finances at the house.

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Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3681244)

We don’t want TA 1.5.

almost everything about TA 1.0 was a total failure and that makes it a horrible platform to build on.

So everything was bad? Not one good thing in it? You’d rather start over and open everything because now, the guys that weren’t here when we started and built openers want their cake and want to eat it too? Tell u what - u aren’t going to get more than the published $3.8B in value - not from this crew force which has grown weaker in the last few years (never seen so much overflying during negotiations for example) . So want to move money around? Or you want to start over and see who can wait longer - The $100B Company with a real desire to not increase unions on property or the 5800 of us - including 1500 hires in last three years with weaker than historical credentials and whiny attitudes (we constantly lowered our minimums and rarely ever said no to anyone in last 3 years) ? Think I’ll go with option A.

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Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 3681704)

… because it took so much talent for you to monitor the engines on a 727 and not forget the coffee..

best on the job training in the industry.

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Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 3681704)

If anyone is wondering why the rhetoric from the pro-TA crowd has been stepped up today, it's because the recalls of our out-of-touch representatives began formally yesterday. The motion to recall TC (the only MEC member to vote against the TA) overwhelmingly failed, and the motion to recall the block 5 and 7 reps overwhelmingly passed. They're seeing their stranglehold on this pilot group slip away, and are desperately hoping to stop the other reps from being recalled.

Pretty sad that none of them resigned, honestly. If they did, it would allow us to move toward the next deal faster. Instead, we have to spend months cleaning house first. By the unions own math, this is costing the pilot group $70M/month.