TA 1.5
08-15-2023, 05:31 PM
#81
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: DA-40
Posts: 290
Originally Posted by magic rat
Im perfectly competent to handle my hotel receipts no problem. If you can’t do that then you shouldn’t be flying airplanes. That is NOT worth what we gave up.
I hope you and your fellow block 1 yes voters enjoy your retirement. You only had TWO other CBAs to fix it and ya didn’t. Buh-bye.
I hope you and your fellow block 1 yes voters enjoy your retirement. You only had TWO other CBAs to fix it and ya didn’t. Buh-bye.
08-15-2023, 06:34 PM
#82
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: MD11 FO
Posts: 1,110
Originally Posted by Maddog64
If all you are worried about is the lost pay for 2 more years, why aren’t you advocating for just taking the company openers almost 3 years ago. You could have had their offer then. There is more to fight for than just pay.
08-15-2023, 06:46 PM
#83
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 261
Originally Posted by seefive
Qualified folks?? It doesn’t matter how many militant people “step up”. FedEx will not roll over to massive demands just because you elect new people. The freight always moves and short of a quick fix, it’s going to be years and massive monetary losses by the pilot group before anything gets done.
No one said rollover, you are injecting something that nobody Is petitioning for. This TA was a weak concessionary proposal that should not have made it past the MEC. One may say it was akin to a stickup for a bump in retirement. Oh yeah, that bump left out 300 retirees (number to grow) and had so many attacks on qol, job security and career progression. We have not even touched pay rates yet. I am glad we voted it down.
I repeat for the folks in the back and the middle passage readers. No one is looking for a “rollover”. We want a profitable company and compensatory acknowledgment of our work.
The next hard part is ahead of us, assembling a new team to move forward.
Until then, save some room on your surveys for not a single pilot left behind for retro retirement. Why? Because every future retiree is worth it, every single NOW retiree is worth it and every past retiree since amenable date is worth it.
We did not delay the pension improvement, our company did. We expected them to address this sooner, but they did not. I am not worried, our pilot group (old heads and younguns) will address it NOW and…
NOT a single pilot left behind (300 and growing). Let’s GO!
Last edited by Yuko; 08-15-2023 at 07:02 PM.
08-17-2023, 02:10 PM
#86
Aspiring PSA Captain
Joined APC: Sep 2020
Posts: 831
Originally Posted by globalflair
I smell a furlough after peak. Call me crazy but I think it’s just around the corner.
They've never furloughed, they've only watched furloughs on the pax side when all of the pax carriers were bleeding simultaneously. In this case I'd say to management that this doesn't work the way you think it works. All they will do is lose a bunch of sunk costs, never to be recovered, and then end up hiring again in a market where they're the ugliest suitor in the room.
08-17-2023, 02:41 PM
#87
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Position: B767
Posts: 425
Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
They can furlough, but it will come at a much higher than usual price. They'll never see 90% of those people again. It'll make recall quite a conundrum.
They've never furloughed, they've only watched furloughs on the pax side when all of the pax carriers were bleeding simultaneously. In this case I'd say to management that this doesn't work the way you think it works. All they will do is lose a bunch of sunk costs, never to be recovered, and then end up hiring again in a market where they're the ugliest suitor in the room.
They've never furloughed, they've only watched furloughs on the pax side when all of the pax carriers were bleeding simultaneously. In this case I'd say to management that this doesn't work the way you think it works. All they will do is lose a bunch of sunk costs, never to be recovered, and then end up hiring again in a market where they're the ugliest suitor in the room.
08-17-2023, 04:12 PM
#88
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 752
Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
They can furlough, but it will come at a much higher than usual price. They'll never see 90% of those people again. It'll make recall quite a conundrum.
They've never furloughed, they've only watched furloughs on the pax side when all of the pax carriers were bleeding simultaneously. In this case I'd say to management that this doesn't work the way you think it works. All they will do is lose a bunch of sunk costs, never to be recovered, and then end up hiring again in a market where they're the ugliest suitor in the room.
They've never furloughed, they've only watched furloughs on the pax side when all of the pax carriers were bleeding simultaneously. In this case I'd say to management that this doesn't work the way you think it works. All they will do is lose a bunch of sunk costs, never to be recovered, and then end up hiring again in a market where they're the ugliest suitor in the room.
08-17-2023, 05:29 PM
#90
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: B767
Posts: 795
Originally Posted by globalflair
I smell a furlough after peak. Call me crazy but I think it’s just around the corner.
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