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Old 07-27-2023, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FDXB757CA View Post
Everybody would like more money.. This is reality.. And while we watch all the antics from a bunch a big mouths ripping on years of hard work. Let’s see what the “No’” produce in the next 2-3 years, still on 2015 wages.. Which by the way, is where we would be, negotiating the next contract ..
...except with none of the concessions the TA offered (the yield of "years of hard work").

No, scope wasn't the only reason the TA failed.
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Old 07-27-2023, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot View Post
I mean seriously, how are we going to establish a floor with this group where we just don't throw out any theory possible and any explanation is shot down as fake news.
We are spiraling, not sure if anyone else notices. There's calls to get rid of ALPA, we are going to lose this war if we don't let those with level headed thinking lead.
How did anything get shot down as fake news? Because the company said so? Today's email sounds a lot like the ALPA contract enforcement standard answer to issues on the line: "the company interprets it this way..." There is a remarkable lack of curiosity and satisfaction with the magical new customer that resulted in 33 MD MEM pairings, 25 MD ANC pairings and 15 77 MEM pairings that materialized out of thin air two days after the TA rejection. This is like saying Hunter's laptop is Russian disinformation.

And who decides what is level headed thinking? You? ALPA?
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Old 07-27-2023, 11:52 PM
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Annnnnd....it's gone.
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Old 07-28-2023, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkguy80 View Post
Annnnnd....it's gone.
It’s still there for me…. I still see the ANC MD CA OT.
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Old 07-28-2023, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot View Post
It’s still there for me…. I still see the ANC MD CA OT.
good on ya…Memphis got slurped up
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Old 07-28-2023, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Herkguy80 View Post
good on ya…Memphis got slurped up
It is almost like we are not in contract negotiations.
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Old 07-28-2023, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Herkguy80 View Post
good on ya…Memphis got slurped up
plenty of us that drop R days and rebuild from OT..
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Old 07-28-2023, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard View Post
Take that message as you will.

We suddenly went from a horrible environment to so much demand from Asia that we’re scrambling to meet it?

If they want to explain it away, it would’ve helped to explain that whole officer stock trade freeze business that just happened to coincide with the surprise volume that just happened to show up after construction.

It may all be innocent, but this is the level of trust that the company and the association have earned at this point - that’s the real overarching issue here.

I’m not sure how either entity can regain the trust of the crew force - and I’m not convinced that either one cares to.

The company and the MEC are like a spouse that was caught cheating yet they are indignant that you wouldn’t just trust them.

“Don’t trust - just verify “
Quality post, couldn't have said this better myself. New email from VPFO confirms that a lot of the crew force feels this way.

But of course, instead of our suits reflecting in on themselves and trying to diagnose why none of their subordinates trust them, they want to appeal to their authority and scold us for talking to one another about our career security on "social media"
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