Spot13

Since we are all being scolded and told to be professionals by our executives in the Union and Pilot Management. Where are the NC resignations?

NoHaz

Well they did send out a message that expense reports are due tomorrow

Spot13

Oh, ouch

MEMFO4Ever

So we are expecting folks to resign that did not vote in lock step with the people they represent?

Interesting concept, especially in the senior blocks.

fly2ski

Would you want to go back to flying the line with reduced BLG's or eat at Ruth's Chris and smoke expensive cubans whilst grab assing support staff? Doubt we will see a single NC resignation, they will be dragged out kicking and screaming all the way. I think one of them is out on medical too.

Spot13

You forgot the black AMEX card they would have to give up.

Spot13

My reps know my position. I told them I did not agree with this TA and know I will support their recall.

If the NC did not mention staying on if this TA failed, the NC should still resign with the 4a2b & 4a2b tactics and the problems that would have been created. Just like the NC and MEC and PD email alluding those in the upper blocks were going to retire if this TA passes, was it in writing? Age 67 just passed the House and will probably pass the Senate and signed so why would the upper blocks retire..

Adlerdriver

I spent almost 3 years on the MEC and I take issue with this typical, ignorant characterization of that body. I took the job reluctantly in the hopes that I could give back since I had never taken the time to contribute to ALPA. Now, as an empty nester, I had run out of excuses and answered the request of several colleagues to throw my name in the hat.
I had no motivation to eat at Ruth's Chris or smoke expensive cigars (although I have done both on my own dime).
What i got was at least 2-4 hours of unpaid work per day making phone calls and answering emails. I eventually had to promise my wife that I would quit by 13:00L at the expense of my marriage. During Covid I could count on at least one if not two 1-2 hour on-line MEC meetings per week. Again, unpaid. What I did get paid for was 4 either online or in-person 5-day MEC meetings per year - once a quarter. That consisted of paid travel to and from MEM for meetings Mon-Fri and paid travel home (in theory). If I could make jumpseats work to save ALPA money, I did. If I could use my MEM car I shared with another pilot, I did rather than expense a rental car to ALPA. Since I eat every day regardless of what I'm doing, I didn't claim per-diem (even though I could) while I was in MEM for the MEC meetings. We usually had a working lunch and one "team" dinner during the week with a PUB event for dinner and a MEM consolidated LEC meeting covering lunch one of the days.
I say, "in theory" because if you drop a 12-day trip for 6 days of ALPA work, you owe 6-days of AFB. We didn't have 6-day trips in our bid pack, so it turned into a huge cluster trying to find a short AFB trip to pay back ALPA. On at least two occasions it was easier to just work a normal trip de-conflicted from the MEC meeting and then do the MEC work for free. Eventually I decided to bid reserve lines to pac-man off R-days for MEC work but as a commuter, reserve wasn't always the best option. Either way, it was a sacrifice.
The bottom line, Mr. fly2ski, is that there's no way anyone does the job of an MEC rep for personal gain. There's none available. It sucks - and people like you make it worse. I know everyone personally on the MEC at this time and you and other's character assassination behind the anonymity of APC is an easy pu$$y move. You (or others) don't like the job they did, fine. Recall them, or be patient and I'll bet many will step down. Why the F would they want to deal with the likes of you. But, to come on a public forum and disparage their efforts beyond simple disagreement in perspective is uncalled for.

Rock

Great response from a guy who has personally gone out of his way to help out me and several people I know with several complex contractual and job issues. The ignorance expressed by many on this website should be opening a few eyes. It appears the way ahead for our pilot group is going to be a long and ugly trail of self-induced pain. A person would have to be a psychotic masochist to volunteer to fill any opening in either the MEC or NC, serving a pilot group who chases stupid internet rumors like a pack of chemtrail believing flat earthers. I’ll be fascinated to see who “steps up”. I hope to be pleasantly surprised. Maybe APC is a very poor representation of the FedEx crew force. Time will tell.

CactusMan

Who’s the condescending a$$h0le hiding behind internet anonymity now, Mr Rock?

The fact is our TA just failed because it was inadequate for the majority of our pilot group. There are MANY reasons to find it inadequate - industry/inflation-lagging pay, QOL concessions, scheduling concessions that result in a smaller MSL, retirement changes that greatly benefit the company but were sold as a win for the pilots, job protection (scope) concessions, laughable back-pay, etc.

To equate all those inadequacies with chemtrail and flat-earth stupidity is to shine a light on your own ignorance. Leveraging a quick pension improvement on the backs of those who would have to pay the QOL bill for decades was a fundamentally flawed and selfish approach.