Postal Contract
#31
Actually, I believe that was the second installment of the deal. I remember the announcement in Dec 2000 I was in AOC and it was a big deal (the announcement)...it was combined with the original MOAB which saw new hires training in the 727 FE position, get MD-11 FO positions in the MD-11 with a one year wait for training. Looks like they were in formal talks in Sep 2000
https://money.cnn.com/2000/09/07/com...edex/index.htm
https://money.cnn.com/2000/09/07/com...edex/index.htm
#32
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I flew postal freight up to 2001 with Gemini.
That big ramp on the northwest side of Indy with the tower. That was the sort. Back then there was a fleet of greasy 727's over there - Ryan, maybe? Some were painted up in Postal Service livery.
I don't think FDX has ever carried more than 50% of postal freight.
That big ramp on the northwest side of Indy with the tower. That was the sort. Back then there was a fleet of greasy 727's over there - Ryan, maybe? Some were painted up in Postal Service livery.
I don't think FDX has ever carried more than 50% of postal freight.
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Actually, I believe that was the second installment of the deal. I remember the announcement in Dec 2000 I was in AOC and it was a big deal (the announcement)...it was combined with the original MOAB which saw new hires training in the 727 FE position, get MD-11 FO positions in the MD-11 with a one year wait for training. Looks like they were in formal talks in Sep 2000
https://money.cnn.com/2000/09/07/com...edex/index.htm
https://money.cnn.com/2000/09/07/com...edex/index.htm
#35
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I flew postal freight up to 2001 with Gemini.
That big ramp on the northwest side of Indy with the tower. That was the sort. Back then there was a fleet of greasy 727's over there - Ryan, maybe? Some were painted up in Postal Service livery.
I don't think FDX has ever carried more than 50% of postal freight.
That big ramp on the northwest side of Indy with the tower. That was the sort. Back then there was a fleet of greasy 727's over there - Ryan, maybe? Some were painted up in Postal Service livery.
I don't think FDX has ever carried more than 50% of postal freight.
#36
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I went to the Air Inc conference in Dallas in Jan of 2001. When Dennis Bondarude (sp) got up to speak he said something to the effect of I can now talk about it. It is official, we signed the contract to haul the US mail. I need to hire everyone in this room and a friend.
I finished 72fe training on July and until Sept there were 75 guys a night on reserve and no flying. Sept 1st it dropped down to a normal 12 to 15 on reserve per night.
I finished 72fe training on July and until Sept there were 75 guys a night on reserve and no flying. Sept 1st it dropped down to a normal 12 to 15 on reserve per night.
#37
So the USPS who loses billions every year is just going to drive every piece of mail on their own trucks everyday all over the country, and hope to turn a profit? On our glorious and modern interstate infrastructure? This Postmaster General is making a lot of noise and not delivering on any goals set forth in his 5 year "plan" that he's already two years into.
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July 2023 article so not exactly brand new info, but....
https://www.govexec.com/management/2...strike/388342/
so one would have to presume the next contract will be less aircraft dependent.
https://www.govexec.com/management/2...strike/388342/
USPS on Monday officially launched Ground Advantage, a new way for customers to ship packages that is replacing three existing postal offerings. The new product will make shipping easier and more reliable for mailers, postal officials said, and will make the agency more competitive with private sector logistics companies. The Postal Service will aim to ship all packages in the continental United States within two-to-five days under Ground Advantage, which officials said was only possible due to reforms to its delivery network made under Postmaster General Louis DeJoy’s modernization and financial stabilization plan.
....With the launch of Ground Advantage, the Postal Service is ending Retail Ground, Parcel Select Ground and First-Class Package Service. It plans to compete particularly with businesses sending packages of less than 25 pounds, whereas it previously focused on the under-five pound market. USPS will have better prices than its competitors, officials said, without the surcharges they include.
....With the launch of Ground Advantage, the Postal Service is ending Retail Ground, Parcel Select Ground and First-Class Package Service. It plans to compete particularly with businesses sending packages of less than 25 pounds, whereas it previously focused on the under-five pound market. USPS will have better prices than its competitors, officials said, without the surcharges they include.
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We (FedEx pilots) need to accept the reality that both the Post Office and FedEx have very dramatically shifted their business models in the last couple years. The shift the Post Office has made significantly affects our flying, because they were our largest customer by a long shot. They made up much of our domestic day flying. Anyone who thinks the postal contract as we’ve known it is going to be renewed and our flying isn’t going to change isn’t living in reality. The changes have ALREADY happened. Again, the only reason they aren’t reflected in our bid pack is because until the current postal contract dies, we still have to fly the routes. So unless the Post Office reverses the changes it has already made, and are mandated by LAW to have taken place, we should anticipate a future that doesn’t involve flying their mail.
Last edited by Rock; 02-05-2024 at 01:57 AM.
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