Another Coup?
04-11-2025 | 03:26 PM
#31
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Fyi:
Hey guys. This is especially critical for anybody that is in LEC 22. That’s blocks 2, 5 and 7
This is 100% fact and being hidden by the morons driving us off a cliff in the MEC.
Grievance 25–01 is our Sam manipulation 4a2c grievance. We waited until the beginning of the year with a clean slate of grievances to ensure that it would go to the top of the list for arbitration.
For those that don’t know, our grievance process is insanely stupid and against the pilots. We can bring as many grievances as we want in a given year and then the company gets to pick and choose which ones they will settle and which ones go to arbitration. It was a very strategic move to only allow one grievance this year so that the company would be forced to take our 25–01.
However, there is an outside the union methodology where an individual member can file a grievance directly superseding the filters that are in place to keep unwinnable grievances from filling up precious arbitration slots.
Capt. Hoffman currently running for block 2 rep, brought fourth grievance to the Alpa attorneys, and they said it was completely unwinnable. Being in the obstinate ass that he is, he decided to take it direct.
The likely result is the company will overlook the all important 4a2c grievance in favor of sending Hoffman’s personal grievance to arbitration. ****ing over the entire rest of the pilot group.
Vote for Hans if you have any sense. Tell your friends.
Hey guys. This is especially critical for anybody that is in LEC 22. That’s blocks 2, 5 and 7
This is 100% fact and being hidden by the morons driving us off a cliff in the MEC.
Grievance 25–01 is our Sam manipulation 4a2c grievance. We waited until the beginning of the year with a clean slate of grievances to ensure that it would go to the top of the list for arbitration.
For those that don’t know, our grievance process is insanely stupid and against the pilots. We can bring as many grievances as we want in a given year and then the company gets to pick and choose which ones they will settle and which ones go to arbitration. It was a very strategic move to only allow one grievance this year so that the company would be forced to take our 25–01.
However, there is an outside the union methodology where an individual member can file a grievance directly superseding the filters that are in place to keep unwinnable grievances from filling up precious arbitration slots.
Capt. Hoffman currently running for block 2 rep, brought fourth grievance to the Alpa attorneys, and they said it was completely unwinnable. Being in the obstinate ass that he is, he decided to take it direct.
The likely result is the company will overlook the all important 4a2c grievance in favor of sending Hoffman’s personal grievance to arbitration. ****ing over the entire rest of the pilot group.
Vote for Hans if you have any sense. Tell your friends.
04-11-2025 | 04:42 PM
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04-11-2025 | 07:49 PM
#33
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At this point it seems there is no pilot at this company that can run a union properly considering the group that brought us TA1 was pho king terrible.
04-12-2025 | 04:22 AM
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04-12-2025 | 05:38 AM
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Fyi:
Hey guys. This is especially critical for anybody that is in LEC 22. That’s blocks 2, 5 and 7
This is 100% fact and being hidden by the morons driving us off a cliff in the MEC.
Grievance 25–01 is our Sam manipulation 4a2c grievance. We waited until the beginning of the year with a clean slate of grievances to ensure that it would go to the top of the list for arbitration.
For those that don’t know, our grievance process is insanely stupid and against the pilots. We can bring as many grievances as we want in a given year and then the company gets to pick and choose which ones they will settle and which ones go to arbitration. It was a very strategic move to only allow one grievance this year so that the company would be forced to take our 25–01.
However, there is an outside the union methodology where an individual member can file a grievance directly superseding the filters that are in place to keep unwinnable grievances from filling up precious arbitration slots.
Capt. Hoffman currently running for block 2 rep, brought fourth grievance to the Alpa attorneys, and they said it was completely unwinnable. Being in the obstinate ass that he is, he decided to take it direct.
The likely result is the company will overlook the all important 4a2c grievance in favor of sending Hoffman’s personal grievance to arbitration. ****ing over the entire rest of the pilot group.
Vote for Hans if you have any sense. Tell your friends.
Hey guys. This is especially critical for anybody that is in LEC 22. That’s blocks 2, 5 and 7
This is 100% fact and being hidden by the morons driving us off a cliff in the MEC.
Grievance 25–01 is our Sam manipulation 4a2c grievance. We waited until the beginning of the year with a clean slate of grievances to ensure that it would go to the top of the list for arbitration.
For those that don’t know, our grievance process is insanely stupid and against the pilots. We can bring as many grievances as we want in a given year and then the company gets to pick and choose which ones they will settle and which ones go to arbitration. It was a very strategic move to only allow one grievance this year so that the company would be forced to take our 25–01.
However, there is an outside the union methodology where an individual member can file a grievance directly superseding the filters that are in place to keep unwinnable grievances from filling up precious arbitration slots.
Capt. Hoffman currently running for block 2 rep, brought fourth grievance to the Alpa attorneys, and they said it was completely unwinnable. Being in the obstinate ass that he is, he decided to take it direct.
The likely result is the company will overlook the all important 4a2c grievance in favor of sending Hoffman’s personal grievance to arbitration. ****ing over the entire rest of the pilot group.
Vote for Hans if you have any sense. Tell your friends.
"Keith W posted a comment referencing Brian H. I thought I would make a new thread in case it disappeared after serving its purpose, like Ryan H’s post did.
The crux of the SM hit job on Brian H is that he filed a grievance outside of the union process and is taking up a slot in arbitration thereby bumping the 4.A.2.c grievance thus having Brian screwing over the pilot group for a petty reasons. Supposedly, the union was strategically only having the 4.A.2.c grievance so that it would be the arbitration entry, and now that was in jeopardy because of Brian.
First fact, go to the FDX ALPA grievance page. There are currently 5 grievances filed in 2025. Guess the argument is blown out of the water on the barest amount of research. Who has the agenda posting easily debunked drivel?—Brian or the Silent Majority?
Next, let’s look at this grievance that Brian is supposedly being an a$$ and doing it for his benefit. Look at the grievance. It’s 21-14 and can be found on the same page by selecting the year. It’s a grievance over secondary line construction and winning it would benefit us all. We all know of stuff that others have posted where they fought the company. They had the cajones to push ahead to the betterment of us all, just like Brian.
Next, let’s look at the dates. This grievance was filed in 2021. Brian certainly had a plan far in advance knowing that he would be running 4 years later for block 2 rep (yes, sarcasm intended). Look at the timeline posted on the FDX ALPA left panel of the 2021 grievance list. This grievance was filed 11/9/2021. The hearing was 2/8/2023! The decision was 4/20/2024! The appeal was due 10/31/2024. Brian apparently didn’t agree with the decision of the company and when the grievance review board said they didn’t want to appeal, Brian expended significant effort appealing it following the procedures in FDX ALPA Policy Manual IX.C.5.
Next, let’s take a look at the grievance and appeal process. The flow chart can be found here
https://fdx.alpa.org/Portals/7/Docum...-flowchart.pdf"
04-12-2025 | 06:01 AM
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04-12-2025 | 06:02 AM
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Well since KW is just cutting and pasting his SM nonsense from Jetflyers to here, here is what another poster responded to it. Sounds like the conspiracy has more holes than Swiss cheese.
"Keith W posted a comment referencing Brian H. I thought I would make a new thread in case it disappeared after serving its purpose, like Ryan H’s post did.
The crux of the SM hit job on Brian H is that he filed a grievance outside of the union process and is taking up a slot in arbitration thereby bumping the 4.A.2.c grievance thus having Brian screwing over the pilot group for a petty reasons. Supposedly, the union was strategically only having the 4.A.2.c grievance so that it would be the arbitration entry, and now that was in jeopardy because of Brian.
First fact, go to the FDX ALPA grievance page. There are currently 5 grievances filed in 2025. Guess the argument is blown out of the water on the barest amount of research. Who has the agenda posting easily debunked drivel?—Brian or the Silent Majority?
Next, let’s look at this grievance that Brian is supposedly being an a$$ and doing it for his benefit. Look at the grievance. It’s 21-14 and can be found on the same page by selecting the year. It’s a grievance over secondary line construction and winning it would benefit us all. We all know of stuff that others have posted where they fought the company. They had the cajones to push ahead to the betterment of us all, just like Brian.
Next, let’s look at the dates. This grievance was filed in 2021. Brian certainly had a plan far in advance knowing that he would be running 4 years later for block 2 rep (yes, sarcasm intended). Look at the timeline posted on the FDX ALPA left panel of the 2021 grievance list. This grievance was filed 11/9/2021. The hearing was 2/8/2023! The decision was 4/20/2024! The appeal was due 10/31/2024. Brian apparently didn’t agree with the decision of the company and when the grievance review board said they didn’t want to appeal, Brian expended significant effort appealing it following the procedures in FDX ALPA Policy Manual IX.C.5.
Next, let’s take a look at the grievance and appeal process. The flow chart can be found here
https://fdx.alpa.org/Portals/7/Docum...-flowchart.pdf"
"Keith W posted a comment referencing Brian H. I thought I would make a new thread in case it disappeared after serving its purpose, like Ryan H’s post did.
The crux of the SM hit job on Brian H is that he filed a grievance outside of the union process and is taking up a slot in arbitration thereby bumping the 4.A.2.c grievance thus having Brian screwing over the pilot group for a petty reasons. Supposedly, the union was strategically only having the 4.A.2.c grievance so that it would be the arbitration entry, and now that was in jeopardy because of Brian.
First fact, go to the FDX ALPA grievance page. There are currently 5 grievances filed in 2025. Guess the argument is blown out of the water on the barest amount of research. Who has the agenda posting easily debunked drivel?—Brian or the Silent Majority?
Next, let’s look at this grievance that Brian is supposedly being an a$$ and doing it for his benefit. Look at the grievance. It’s 21-14 and can be found on the same page by selecting the year. It’s a grievance over secondary line construction and winning it would benefit us all. We all know of stuff that others have posted where they fought the company. They had the cajones to push ahead to the betterment of us all, just like Brian.
Next, let’s look at the dates. This grievance was filed in 2021. Brian certainly had a plan far in advance knowing that he would be running 4 years later for block 2 rep (yes, sarcasm intended). Look at the timeline posted on the FDX ALPA left panel of the 2021 grievance list. This grievance was filed 11/9/2021. The hearing was 2/8/2023! The decision was 4/20/2024! The appeal was due 10/31/2024. Brian apparently didn’t agree with the decision of the company and when the grievance review board said they didn’t want to appeal, Brian expended significant effort appealing it following the procedures in FDX ALPA Policy Manual IX.C.5.
Next, let’s take a look at the grievance and appeal process. The flow chart can be found here
https://fdx.alpa.org/Portals/7/Docum...-flowchart.pdf"
04-12-2025 | 07:49 AM
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First, the post you are refering to stated that the grievance was outside of ALPA, which is allowed. You refered to grievance 21-14, which was filed by ALPA. Apples and oranges.
Second, three of those additional grievances you refer to were filed in the last 10 days, possibly after the alleged union plan had been disrupted.
I'm not siding with either you or Maddog, only stating that there is probably a lot more to both stories than we will ever find out.
Regardless of who you support for block 2 rep, we need to have a solid turnout to show that we are engaged.
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