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#61
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Use your fatigue call. There’s no need to justify yourself over the phone; fatigue is fatigue. If further explanation is necessary, do so in the fatigue report.
If a Duty Officer contacts you, record the conversation and submit it as part of a DART. The continued pressure being placed on us is unacceptable, and many of us have had enough.
The final paragraph in the recent PD update regarding PFC is not only dismissive but feels as out of touch as the suggestion for us to take the mighty PSA offer. It’s disappointing to see that level of disconnect from someone who should understand the realities of this job.
If a Duty Officer contacts you, record the conversation and submit it as part of a DART. The continued pressure being placed on us is unacceptable, and many of us have had enough.
The final paragraph in the recent PD update regarding PFC is not only dismissive but feels as out of touch as the suggestion for us to take the mighty PSA offer. It’s disappointing to see that level of disconnect from someone who should understand the realities of this job.
#62
On Reserve
Joined: Jan 2023
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Understatement of the decade.
-Have big plans after your trip? No you don't, because here comes an 80 hour extension and you will LIKE it.
-System bids happen every leap year. Oh you want to finally bid over to the triple?...Well too bad because new hires are getting stapled to the bottom, so (Seinfeld soup nazi voice) "NO SLOT FOR YOU!" Not to mention nobody truly gets how the bids work. Not even the company (see recent bid).
This crew force is (okay, maybe not everyone) deathly afraid of PBS. I'm curious to see if bartering happens where a notable pay rate increase happen in exchange for PBS.
There's so much that needs to be fixed. But senior guys have ensured us we will have more negotiation cycles to fix these things. As long as they get their pension bump on the way out.
-Have big plans after your trip? No you don't, because here comes an 80 hour extension and you will LIKE it.
-System bids happen every leap year. Oh you want to finally bid over to the triple?...Well too bad because new hires are getting stapled to the bottom, so (Seinfeld soup nazi voice) "NO SLOT FOR YOU!" Not to mention nobody truly gets how the bids work. Not even the company (see recent bid).
This crew force is (okay, maybe not everyone) deathly afraid of PBS. I'm curious to see if bartering happens where a notable pay rate increase happen in exchange for PBS.
There's so much that needs to be fixed. But senior guys have ensured us we will have more negotiation cycles to fix these things. As long as they get their pension bump on the way out.
It still baffles me that the last 3 contracts were so concessionary, nothing ever got fixed or improved as the pax and even UPS got better contracts. I know you can’t salad bar all the issues you want, but overall we never have bothered to follow the rising tides of the other boats. I remember reading the openers for this failed TA, and thinking “this is it? This is all you wanted?” then when DL/UA/AA all lobbed their new numbers “surely they’ve moved the chains for us”. No, PM does not speak for me, in his khaki 80’s blazer.
With Fred gone, can’t wait to see what the next act in their playbook is. I’d appreciate it if PD could set up his flow program to several regionals so we’d have more flexibility than sitting RA/RB for the rest of our lives, wondering when we can bid to the triple. But hey thanks for all you do!
#63
Line Holder
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,357
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I have seen plenty of blue line specials with he junior crowd. Nice job trying to divide up the crew force. Must be a management shill.
You are so out of touch with our last three contracts verses the majors. They took it up the ..s while we had to fight to get improvements. Another false statement by a company plant.
You are so out of touch with our last three contracts verses the majors. They took it up the ..s while we had to fight to get improvements. Another false statement by a company plant.
#64
Home a lot
Joined: Apr 2021
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I have seen plenty of blue line specials with he junior crowd. Nice job trying to divide up the crew force. Must be a management shill.
You are so out of touch with our last three contracts verses the majors. They took it up the ..s while we had to fight to get improvements. Another false statement by a company plant.
You are so out of touch with our last three contracts verses the majors. They took it up the ..s while we had to fight to get improvements. Another false statement by a company plant.
#66
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,481
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From: Crewmember
Watch the latest unscripted. It is clear that management tipped off the SM about us being Iced, before they even left the room.
It sickens me that the NMB has apparently chosen the company's side, instead of being the neutral mediator they should be.
It sickens me that the NMB has apparently chosen the company's side, instead of being the neutral mediator they should be.
#67
It's not PBS in particular that we're "scared" of. It's the FACT that any major change historically WILL involve a hidden interpretation, predetermined by FDX, that will result in catastrophic damage to us. That is why those of us who have been around here for awhile aren't interested in cracking open the patient's chest in any area - the doctor usually starts drinking the blood.
#68
I would like to see "click in fatigued." The duty officers are calling people back with their personal cell phones following fatigue calls (to avoid the recorded line) to pester them, shame them, imply they are on the radar, and make accusations of immorality for calling out fatigued.
#69
Banned
Joined: Aug 2019
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900 Million give back by the union at the last NMB meeting and that wasn't enough? Now its about fatigue calls.? Well the junior guys are the majority, TC is gone. Yep, senior guys were wrong, now its up to the junior majority, but wait, thats on hold now. So another 3 months, 6 months? You can't blame the senior guys anymore, its in the junior majority hands now.
#70
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Joined: Aug 2019
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The Senile Majority always found it acceptable to stay out 80 hours more, cuz hey the squadron needs it! And it’s $$$. Willing to sell their souls for any pension bump.
It still baffles me that the last 3 contracts were so concessionary, nothing ever got fixed or improved as the pax and even UPS got better contracts. I know ys for all you do!
It still baffles me that the last 3 contracts were so concessionary, nothing ever got fixed or improved as the pax and even UPS got better contracts. I know ys for all you do!
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