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#61
On Reserve
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 102
Likes: 17
From: RJ Capt
What's embarrassing is believing one can actually "quit the union". Maybe section 29 will be your red pill as to the rather unambiguous collusion that exists between ALPA and the corporation but for many it was the last 3 years of gaslighting (Threats of furlough, crushing legal consequences, etc etc) they endured, and continue to endure from union leadership at the behest of management. Many of those same people find it a bit off-putting the amount of money they pay to retain such "representation"... especially while being forced into making go/no go decisions at their local Kroger.
Look if you want to believe "nobody backing down" means pizza parties, lanyards, tough emails, and taking articles of clothing off at work.. that's great, I genuinely support your right to put stock in those actions. That said, I think it would behoove you to realize many out there see that kind of thing as nothing more than, as you so eloquently put it, "talking sht".
Look if you want to believe "nobody backing down" means pizza parties, lanyards, tough emails, and taking articles of clothing off at work.. that's great, I genuinely support your right to put stock in those actions. That said, I think it would behoove you to realize many out there see that kind of thing as nothing more than, as you so eloquently put it, "talking sht".
Oh, and pls don’t omit from your explanation the actual truth here which is your retirement bump and stage left is your main priority.
All you clowns who continue to rail on the MEC while they call the company’s bullsht over and over again should really think again on your “no progress” line of reasoning. You sound ridiculous.
PS - I’m well aware you can’t quit the union. But you can pay dues and shut up because you provide no value with your reasoning.
#62
On Reserve
Joined: Sep 2024
Posts: 47
Likes: 12
Fair enough. Explain to all of us how making massive concessions when the rest of the industry prospers makes any sense. I’ll wait my man.
Oh, and pls don’t omit from your explanation the actual truth here which is your retirement bump and stage left is your main priority.
All you clowns who continue to rail on the MEC while they call the company’s bullsht over and over again should really think again on your “no progress” line of reasoning. You sound ridiculous.
PS - I’m well aware you can’t quit the union. But you can pay dues and shut up because you provide no value with your reasoning.
Oh, and pls don’t omit from your explanation the actual truth here which is your retirement bump and stage left is your main priority.
All you clowns who continue to rail on the MEC while they call the company’s bullsht over and over again should really think again on your “no progress” line of reasoning. You sound ridiculous.
PS - I’m well aware you can’t quit the union. But you can pay dues and shut up because you provide no value with your reasoning.
Anyway, at the risk of sounding ridiculous, maybe you'd like to enlighten me and my fellow harlequins on all the "progress" we've overlooked?
#63
On Reserve
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 102
Likes: 17
From: RJ Capt
Well that's pretty easy, we shouldn't. I'm not supporting TA1 now and I voted against it then. And since you brought it up, under current FAA regulations I have about 3 decades before I retire.
Anyway, at the risk of sounding ridiculous, maybe you'd like to enlighten me and my fellow harlequins on all the "progress" we've overlooked?
Anyway, at the risk of sounding ridiculous, maybe you'd like to enlighten me and my fellow harlequins on all the "progress" we've overlooked?
#64
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,481
Likes: 23
From: Crewmember
Well that's pretty easy, we shouldn't. I'm not supporting TA1 now and I voted against it then. And since you brought it up, under current FAA regulations I have about 3 decades before I retire.
Anyway, at the risk of sounding ridiculous, maybe you'd like to enlighten me and my fellow harlequins on all the "progress" we've overlooked?
Anyway, at the risk of sounding ridiculous, maybe you'd like to enlighten me and my fellow harlequins on all the "progress" we've overlooked?
Just some friendly advice, you can take it or leave it.
#65
If you really have 3 decades left before you retire, and I don't doubt you, you should seriously consider working somewhere else. The old FedEx is gone. The new FedEx will treat you poorly for the next 3 decades. If I were in your shoes, I would have left already.
Just some friendly advice, you can take it or leave it.
Just some friendly advice, you can take it or leave it.
-Bubs
#66
On Reserve
Joined: Jun 2025
Posts: 19
Likes: 9
Listen to the fly by night podcast. Marty H says the quiet part out loud. Planning is purposefully pinching every penny to keep us in 4a2FU and the Operational side of the house has a blank check to fix the problems Planning creates. They’d actually save money if Planning wasn’t playing this horse$hit game. That’s the company we work for. They’re doing this on purpose. It’s absolutely ridiculous. Run away from this dumpster fire and don’t apply to work here. If I’m getting 4a2FU’ed in 2026 I’ll go to PSA. Literally 1 year pay at any legacy is more than I make in 4a2FU in my widebody seat and equipment. That’s pathetic. This place blows.
-Bubs
-Bubs
#67
I pity the fool.
-Bubs
#68
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 325
Likes: 17
listen to the fly by night podcast. Marty h says the quiet part out loud. Planning is purposefully pinching every penny to keep us in 4a2fu and the operational side of the house has a blank check to fix the problems planning creates. They’d actually save money if planning wasn’t playing this horse$hit game. That’s the company we work for. They’re doing this on purpose. It’s absolutely unethical ridiculous. Run away from this dumpster fire and don’t apply to work here. If i’m getting 4a2fu’ed in 2026 i’ll go to psa. Literally 1 year pay at any legacy is more than i make in 4a2fu in my widebody seat and equipment. That’s pathetic. This place blows.
-bubs
-bubs
#70
China Visa Applicant
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,964
Likes: 16
From: Midfield downwind
"Progress" just for the sake of progress is an idiotic, short-term, counterproductive objective and a metric of literally nothing of substance when it comes to negotiating a contract that will be worthy of ratification.
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