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Given that 4a2c is a direct result of the manipulation of BLG's, and given that the schedule is unflyable without draft and extension, the pilots who are accepting these trips are LITERALLY stealing pay directly from the lines of their coworkers.
That's it. Period. Until we call this what it is and demand accountability we will continue to make no progress. |
Originally Posted by Tuck
(Post 3947479)
You are right - there is more going on. Our NC Chairman has now decided not to negotiate with Company in direct negotiations - who knows why but it was his choice. He's probably the most arrogant unorganized (just watch his unscripted where he appears stoned and has trouble with sentences) NC chairman we've ever had. But if he were making progress then who cares right? But if there's zero progress and HE appears to be the impediment then what?
You should call you rep - ask if our NC Chairman cancelled negotiations with the Company and what his plan is (because the current MEC has zero say in what the NC does) to actually get a TA. It ain't going to happen from self-help. |
Originally Posted by TsimShaTsui
(Post 3947487)
I would take the current NC chairman over the last one who put us in this mess to begin with.
So glad you got this thread back on topic so we can get back to blaming Pancake Man for everything! That’s the ticket! |
Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
(Post 3947485)
Given that 4a2c is a direct result of the manipulation of BLG's, and given that the schedule is unflyable without draft and extension, the pilots who are accepting these trips are LITERALLY stealing pay directly from the lines of their coworkers.
That's it. Period. Until we call this what it is and demand accountability we will continue to make no progress. |
Originally Posted by Cowpoke
(Post 3947533)
So glad you got this thread back on topic so we can get back to blaming Pancake Man for everything! That’s the ticket!
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Originally Posted by Tuck
(Post 3947479)
You are right - there is more going on. Our NC Chairman has now decided not to negotiate with Company in direct negotiations - who knows why but it was his choice. He's probably the most arrogant unorganized (just watch his unscripted where he appears stoned and has trouble with sentences) NC chairman we've ever had. But if he were making progress then who cares right? But if there's zero progress and HE appears to be the impediment then what?
You should call you rep - ask if our NC Chairman cancelled negotiations with the Company and what his plan is (because the current MEC has zero say in what the NC does) to actually get a TA. It ain't going to happen from self-help. |
Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
(Post 3947485)
Given that 4a2c is a direct result of the manipulation of BLG's, and given that the schedule is unflyable without draft and extension, the pilots who are accepting these trips are LITERALLY stealing pay directly from the lines of their coworkers.
That's it. Period. Until we call this what it is and demand accountability we will continue to make no progress.
Originally Posted by Cowpoke
(Post 3947536)
You don’t say?
I'm trying to point out/reinforce/remind/explain to the slow among us (and it seems there are many), that their co-workers are STEALING. From them. Daily. I cannot believe that I go to work and everyone just acts like this is all normal. If you caught these same people stealing from your house there would be police, fights, gunplay, whatever. This "white collar" (yellow collar in many cases) theft is being tolerated ad nauseam. What, exactly, is it going to take to make this group self-police? |
Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
(Post 3947745)
Not sure why the sarcasm is necessary.
I'm trying to point out/reinforce/remind/explain to the slow among us (and it seems there are many), that their co-workers are STEALING. From them. Daily. I cannot believe that I go to work and everyone just acts like this is all normal. If you caught these same people stealing from your house there would be police, fights, gunplay, whatever. This "white collar" (yellow collar in many cases) theft is being tolerated ad nauseam. What, exactly, is it going to take to make this group self-police? Anyway, probably just wishful thinking. |
Originally Posted by Tuck
(Post 3947479)
You are right - there is more going on. Our NC Chairman has now decided not to negotiate with Company in direct negotiations - who knows why but it was his choice. He's probably the most arrogant unorganized (just watch his unscripted where he appears stoned and has trouble with sentences) NC chairman we've ever had. But if he were making progress then who cares right? But if there's zero progress and HE appears to be the impediment then what?
You should call you rep - ask if our NC Chairman cancelled negotiations with the Company and what his plan is (because the current MEC has zero say in what the NC does) to actually get a TA. It ain't going to happen from self-help. looks like you’re wrong again. |
Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
(Post 3947745)
Not sure why the sarcasm is necessary.
I'm trying to point out/reinforce/remind/explain to the slow among us (and it seems there are many), that their co-workers are STEALING. From them. Daily. I cannot believe that I go to work and everyone just acts like this is all normal. If you caught these same people stealing from your house there would be police, fights, gunplay, whatever. This "white collar" (yellow collar in many cases) theft is being tolerated ad nauseam. What, exactly, is it going to take to make this group self-police? Sarcasm yes, but not directed at you. Directed at anyone reading your post that can’t connect the dots. As this issue is concerned, and there’s plenty more, we are most definitely in agreement. What is it going to take? Leadership and accountability. This can (and should) be accomplished in a professional way. It will need to start with the Union to ensure standardization and understood expectations. The story that we have no ability to rein this in because of “group action”, “historical norms”, or “standard precedent” died with the institution of 4a2c. |
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