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Cowpoke 09-04-2025 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 (Post 3945634)
The pilot group is the problem. We need to be more like Atlas and UPS.

Nah! Let’s just keep blaming PM for everything. As long as I’m wearing my “All In!” lanyard, I’m supporting the NC.

P-3Bubba 09-05-2025 02:12 AM


Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 (Post 3945634)
The pilot group is the problem. We need to be more like Atlas and UPS.

The COMPANY is the problem Cowpoke!!! Wake up!!! That’s what the COMPANY is telling you!!! Oh we’d have a deal but the lazy pilots mess it up. Don’t you see that!!?!?!!!

Be more like whoever you want and keep picking up draft and making excuses for how this is the best job in aviation.

-Bubs

Cowpoke 09-05-2025 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by P-3Bubba (Post 3945822)
The COMPANY is the problem Cowpoke!!! Wake up!!! That’s what the COMPANY is telling you!!! Oh we’d have a deal but the lazy pilots mess it up. Don’t you see that!!?!?!!!

Be more like whoever you want and keep picking up draft and making excuses for how this is the best job in aviation.

-Bubs

Do I look like Globemaster? Is it because I’m black? I give you an A+ for enthusiasm and a solid F for attention to detail.

Globemaster2827 09-05-2025 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by P-3Bubba (Post 3945822)
The COMPANY is the problem Cowpoke!!! Wake up!!! That’s what the COMPANY is telling you!!! Oh we’d have a deal but the lazy pilots mess it up. Don’t you see that!!?!?!!!

Be more like whoever you want and keep picking up draft and making excuses for how this is the best job in aviation.

-Bubs

We’re monkies throwing poop here. At no point did I say I believe a word the company is saying. Our pilot group needs to change and we refuse to do so.

Cowpoke 09-05-2025 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 (Post 3946059)
At no point did I say I believe a word the company is saying. Our pilot group needs to change and we refuse to do so.

What Globe said. But hey, Peak is right around the corner! Won’t be any reason guys will need to accept extensions and draft during 4a2c with an extra 800 pilots sitting around with nothing to do.

Idaho 09-07-2025 05:10 AM

We can't have nice things.
 
Wondering if the reason PM lost his nads was, Ruth Chris steak dinners with management subconsciously biased him, or those at the table were informed we are about to be Lorenzo-ed.

Thus it is impossible to be shown the door at Delta rates, due to LCA/flex/IC, pizza parties, infighting at the union due to who controls the narrative, and so forth.

P-3Bubba 09-07-2025 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Cowpoke (Post 3946005)
Do I look like Globemaster? Is it because I’m black? I give you an A+ for enthusiasm and a solid F for attention to detail.

Look, I read a some posts and get all riled up here! Im just trying to stress that it’s the COMPANY thats caused this frustration and destruction. They’re openly blaming the pilots for this and its a pathetic cry for help that theyre about to lose this game.

In unity

-Bubs

Cowpoke 09-07-2025 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by P-3Bubba (Post 3946597)
Look, I read a some posts and get all riled up here! Im just trying to stress that it’s the COMPANY thats caused this frustration and destruction. They’re openly blaming the pilots for this and its a pathetic cry for help that theyre about to lose this game.

In unity

-Bubs

I’m not against you Bubs. It’s in jest, only fun. I understand the emotion and appreciate the enthusiasm. I don’t see it as a cry for help. The Union is divided. They’re doing the best they can to drive that wedge harder. It’s what I would expect. As long as their cadre of independent contractors work enough overtime, we will remain in 4a2c, and there will be no serious willingness to negotiate. Everything else is smoke and mirrors. So has the Company caused this? Yes, 100%. But, WE have allowed it to continue.

EMBFlyer 09-07-2025 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by P-3Bubba (Post 3946597)
Look, I read a some posts and get all riled up here! Im just trying to stress that it’s the COMPANY thats caused this frustration and destruction. They’re openly blaming the pilots for this and its a pathetic cry for help that theyre about to lose this game.

In unity

-Bubs

Don't we have to be IN the game for the company to lose? If you haven't noticed, right now, we're sitting on the sidelines.

Jamo 09-07-2025 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Idaho (Post 3946523)
Wondering if the reason PM lost his nads was, Ruth Chris steak dinners with management subconsciously biased him, or those at the table were informed we are about to be Lorenzo-ed.

Thus it is impossible to be shown the door at Delta rates, due to LCA/flex/IC, pizza parties, infighting at the union due to who controls the narrative, and so forth.

Our draft sim instructors are the biggest POS pilots in the industry. Hands down. Full stop.


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