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Old 10-04-2025 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
I agree. This was done as an inside job. Why did it happen? We don’t know and seems like we won’t get answers. If JG was misrepresenting the MEC and the group as a whole then why didn’t they address it before going into their own rogue action? But to now find cause to blow up the union again? This I don’t see as the prudent action to combat what was just executed. Hopefully and explanation or causality becomes more clear in the coming days. I’d suggest reaching out to your block rep and expressing your opinion on it. To make sure they understand what sentiment and thoughts are coming from the segment they were elected to represent.

-Bubs
Reps from all the blocks that were in favor of this change have laid out every single reason why it happened. If "you don't know and won't get answers", it's because you fail to read anything outside of social media or from CT and CC. The answers have been given to you.
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Old 10-04-2025 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
Reps from all the blocks that were in favor of this change have laid out every single reason why it happened. If "you don't know and won't get answers", it's because you fail to read anything outside of social media or from CT and CC. The answers have been given to you.
This was a COUP pure and simple. No discussion or debate and the Policy Manual WAS NOT followed.

Section V, Paragraph B (2):
Replacement of Negotiating Committee Members

Should it become necessary to replace the chair of the committee, the entire committee

should be replaced.

Not only should Reps for Blocks 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 12 be RECALLED; so should the MEC Chair.
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Old 10-04-2025 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dakota
This was a COUP pure and simple. No discussion or debate and the Policy Manual WAS NOT followed.

Section V, Paragraph B (2):
Replacement of Negotiating Committee Members

Should it become necessary to replace the chair of the committee, the entire committee

should be replaced.

Not only should Reps for Blocks 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 12 be RECALLED; so should the MEC Chair.
But it's ok when 2, 4, 5, 7 and 11 violate the policy manual for a roll call vote for JG to stay at home at 105 CH/month?

I'll wait while you explain that one.
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Old 10-04-2025 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Dakota
This was a COUP pure and simple. No discussion or debate and the Policy Manual WAS NOT followed.

Section V, Paragraph B (2):
Replacement of Negotiating Committee Members

Should it become necessary to replace the chair of the committee, the entire committee

should be replaced.

Not only should Reps for Blocks 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 12 be RECALLED; so should the MEC Chair.
Your quoted section shows that they did follow the manual. Should does not equal shall.

So, what is the difference between Monday and the first Monday in March 2024?
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Old 10-04-2025 | 11:30 AM
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No difference except 2024 are his tribe.
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Old 10-04-2025 | 01:10 PM
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Put the tie back on?! Let’s not get crazy….
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Old 10-04-2025 | 02:40 PM
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We used to tag each others cars with “I support pay cuts for law enforcement” and “cops are wusses” bumper stickers. How about…

“I support pay cuts for FX ALPA”
”Our MEC is wusses”
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Old 10-04-2025 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SpoilerAlert
We used to tag each others cars with “I support pay cuts for law enforcement” and “cops are wusses” bumper stickers. How about…

“I support pay cuts for FX ALPA”
”Our MEC is wusses”
can we get lanyards that say “IM a draft dodger”?
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Old 10-04-2025 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dakota
This was a COUP pure and simple. No discussion or debate and the Policy Manual WAS NOT followed.

Section V, Paragraph B (2):
Replacement of Negotiating Committee Members

Should it become necessary to replace the chair of the committee, the entire committee

should be replaced.

Not only should Reps for Blocks 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 12 be RECALLED; so should the MEC Chair.
I could be wrong, but the "rules" (policy manual) can be "suspended" with a ⅔ vote in many parliamentary governance structures. It wouldn't surprise me if the Fed ex alpa policy manual permitted this. If so, the policy manual would not appear to have been violated.
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Old 10-04-2025 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
I could be wrong, but the "rules" (policy manual) can be "suspended" with a ⅔ vote in many parliamentary governance structures. It wouldn't surprise me if the Fed ex alpa policy manual permitted this. If so, the policy manual would not appear to have been violated.
That means they would need 8 votes. Out of the 12 total. Pretty sure they only had seven that would play ball.

There are several times in the policy manual that the ⅔ vote is mentioned as an override like you mentioned.
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