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Old 02-19-2026 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
They put out an email tonight claiming that information has been withheld from them. If they leak it, then they lied. (To which we'd all be shocked)
They?

MEC? Council 22? FACT team? SM?
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Old 02-19-2026 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
They?

MEC? Council 22? FACT team? SM?
My response was in reference to the post I quoted referring to the "burn it down crowd", which would be our union saviors, Block 4 and Council 22. My God. What would we ever do without all of their contributions:

The charts
The graphs
The blame
The anger
The finger pointing

The only thing missing seems to be

*Checks notes*

A solution? A plan?
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Old 02-19-2026 | 08:27 AM
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They have a plan! Bring FedEx to its knees! Seems like the burn it down crowd spends more of their time complaining or on their knees trying to save their own jobs.
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Old 02-19-2026 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
My response was in reference to the post I quoted referring to the "burn it down crowd", which would be our union saviors, Block 4 and Council 22. My God. What would we ever do without all of their contributions:

The charts
The graphs
The blame
The anger
The finger pointing

The only thing missing seems to be

*Checks notes*

A solution? A plan?
At this point if C22 claimed to have credible information of an inbound nuke or full access to the Epstein files I don't think 75% would bother to listen to them. You can only do so much of this crap before you are tuned out. Constantly being a loose cannon just isn't an effective way to be taken seriously (by most of us).
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Old 02-19-2026 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
At this point if C22 had credible information of an inbound nuke or full access to the Epstein files I don't think 75% would listen to them. You can only do so much of this crap before you are tuned out. Constantly being a loose cannon just isn't an effective way to be taken seriously (by most of us).
I agree with you 1000% on this one!

If Chris Turner were to tell me the sky is blue, I wouldn't believe him.
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Old 02-19-2026 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
I agree with you 1000% on this one!

If Chris Turner were to tell me the sky is blue, I wouldn't believe him.
You also gave up a metamorphic ton of seniority elsewhere to come here and defend this company and their antics— often speaking out against your fellow pilots. So that decision making and critical-thinking analysis checks.
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Old 02-23-2026 | 09:24 AM
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FACT: You will be bent over the nacelle in this looming TA.

FACT: Pay rates, the recovery payment and retirement will be below everyone else.

FACT: Leave if you’re junior.
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Old 02-23-2026 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MemTrash
FACT: You will be bent over the nacelle in this looming TA.

FACT: Pay rates, the recovery payment and retirement will be below everyone else.

FACT: Leave if you’re junior.

FACT: None of what you posted is a FACT!
FACT: All of what you posted is your OPINION!

TRUTH: If you don’t like it here, you are free to leave - no matter what your seniority number may be.
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Old 02-23-2026 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by flares
FACT: None of what you posted is a FACT!
FACT: All of what you posted is your OPINION!

TRUTH: If you don’t like it here, you are free to leave - no matter what your seniority number may be.
FACT: All the above will become FACT very soon.

FACT: after 17 years here I cannot, in fact, just leave.

Thank you for your service on the fuct feam.
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Old 02-23-2026 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MemTrash
FACT: All the above will become FACT very soon.


FACT: after 17 years here I cannot, in fact, just leave.


Thank you for your service on the fuct feam.
TRUTH: Only time will tell if your OPINIONS become fact or not.

TRUTH: You can leave anytime you want. You CHOOSE to stay for whatever reason, but it is YOUR CHOICE.

MY OPINION: Maybe, since you CHOOSE to stay here, wait until we have a TA to vote on before you start throwing your OPINIONS around as FACTS (they are not)…
or at least in your posts, state your opinions as your OPINIONS instead of calling them FACTS.
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