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Old 07-20-2015, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Commando View Post
Obviously your Leadership is playing Nice. Maybe because they know the Pilot Groups resolve?

We here at the IPA started a Year after you guys, and we are most likely having a Strike Vote in early Sept. So the company understands our resolve.

Surprised you guys being a year in front of us in the time line, haven't done this. This may be a reason FDX isn't taking this seriously and dragging it out. Why not on there part.
Our amendable date was Jan 2013. I think yours was Dec 31, 2011.
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Old 07-20-2015, 11:31 AM
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Our amendable date was Jan 2013. I think yours was Dec 31, 2011.
Actually I think it was Feb 13 only because we reset the Oct 2010 one with a ridiculous interim agreement!! 😡
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Originally Posted by Commando View Post

Surprised you guys being a year in front of us in the time line, haven't done this. This may be a reason FDX isn't taking this seriously and dragging it out. Why not on there part.

Maybe we should get some UPS folks to negotiate our CBA? They seems to understand our problems better than we do and they think they are so much smarter!*?

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Originally Posted by MaxKts View Post
Actually I think it was Feb 13 only because we reset the Oct 2010 one with a ridiculous interim agreement!! 😡
Turned out to be the better play since Fedex guys got a few pay rate increases while the negotiations drag out.
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Turned out to be the better play since Fedex guys got a few pay rate increases while the negotiations drag out.
And, UPS was smart enough to negotiate them into their previous CBA!

If our Interim Agreement had 3% per year until we had a new CBA I would agree that it worked out for us! But, I guess, selling your soul for a few sheckels up front makes it worth it to some
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Well, I guess we will know the results of the TNT merger when the next session starts.......perhaps that will help us in some manner.

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Originally Posted by MaydayMark View Post
Maybe we should get some UPS folks to negotiate our CBA? They seems to understand our problems better than we do and they think they are so much smarter!*?

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As long as you don't undercut the Hourly Rate by $25.00 like last time, we will be thrilled.

The point is, FDX isn't going to do anything with your NC until they feel some resolve in your masses. Like an innocent Strike Vote. What year are you in with negotiations? 4?
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Old 07-20-2015, 03:52 PM
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Strike votes are worthless. There is a long road to even going on strike so taking a vote means nothing. And the real substance of a strike is who is going to actually strike vs those that voted to strike but won't. You have to get into self help and be released from mediation to go on strike. Then the President can force you back to work. Going on strike isn't just as easy as voting and the companies know that.
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Originally Posted by Commando View Post
As long as you don't undercut the Hourly Rate by $25.00 like last time, we will be thrilled.

The point is, FDX isn't going to do anything with your NC until they feel some resolve in your masses. Like an innocent Strike Vote. What year are you in with negotiations? 4?
If you were so unhappy with your pay rate why didn't you show some resolve and vote down your TA

I guess you were to busy flying draft and extra trips to make up for the lost manpower of the guys on furlough
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Old 07-20-2015, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Commando View Post
Obviously your Leadership is playing Nice. Maybe because they know the Pilot Groups resolve?

We here at the IPA started a Year after you guys, and we are most likely having a Strike Vote in early Sept. So the company understands our resolve.

Surprised you guys being a year in front of us in the time line, haven't done this. This may be a reason FDX isn't taking this seriously and dragging it out. Why not on there part.
Commando, From where you stand I can understand that it may appear we have a lack of resolve. After all, FDX pilots did vote for a 3% raise and a promise of good will from management in the two prior contracts. That's called naive. I think they would not make the same mistake today. I submit what you are seeing as a lack of resolve is centered on the union leadership over the last several years. They are leading the band. When they got around to calling on the pilots to show resolve via picketing or not flying on their day off, they quickly answered the call. I firmly believe the FDX rank and file pilots have plenty of resolve this time. They cannot wrap up the negotiations until their leadership sets the stage.
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