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Old 08-21-2015 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Lineslug
Correct, except Captains max out at about 10.3% because of federal limits on the qualified plan. Just FYI.
I believe fedex pilots who reach the IRS limit keep getting paid but now it's added to your income and taxed. Is that correct?

That's how ups B-plan worked before the '06 contract. Now, once they reach the IRS limit ups keeps the money... It only affects a few pilots but still
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Old 08-22-2015 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by whalesurfer
I believe fedex pilots who reach the IRS limit keep getting paid but now it's added to your income and taxed. Is that correct?

That's how ups B-plan worked before the '06 contract. Now, once they reach the IRS limit ups keeps the money... It only affects a few pilots but still
The difference above the IRS CAP is paid to us in cash and taxed at current rate.
Not a good deal
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Old 08-22-2015 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
The difference above the IRS CAP is paid to us in cash and taxed at current rate.
Not a good deal
That's what I thought.

Well, your deal is MUCH better than our deal.

Since the 2006 contract - once a pilot reaches the IRS cap ups keeps the extra money!!! In other words, don't worry about being taxed on the difference because ups keeps ALL the difference.

The fact we gave that up is unfathomable to me! :-(
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Old 08-22-2015 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
The difference above the IRS CAP is paid to us in cash and taxed at current rate.
Not a good deal
I wasn't here for the 2006 "bonus". Was it split between 2006 and 2007 to limit the taxes?
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Old 08-22-2015 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
The difference above the IRS CAP is paid to us in cash and taxed at current rate.
Not a good deal
What?

FDX B plan pays 7% up to IRS 401(a)(17) compensation limit($265,000 in 2015)...Then stops, period.

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Old 08-22-2015 | 07:00 PM
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Default If the rumors are true then I'm voting NO!!

I know I don't have all the facts yet, but if it turns out to be a 10% pay raise and then 3% a year after and retirement isn't uncapped, I'm absolutely voting NO. To me that would merely be another contract extension. We have continued to have our schedules optimized. We are working harder, more days per month, with more legs, shorter layovers, no weekend layovers, ridiculous deadheads and unreasonable banks. Come on just look around, airlines who haven't made money in a decade are rapidly closing in on us when it comes to compensation.
Plus each year the retirement cap is maintained our retirement becomes less valuable. I used to buy a can of soda for 25 cents and now the same can costs a buck or more. I believe our pay rates are just keeping up with inflation, but we are working much harder than we used too. Simultaneously the value of our retirement continues to decline due to inflation. This contract will last almost another decade (Yes 6 years plus the 2-3 years it always takes to get a new contract), there is a higher probability of increased inflation which will further erode the value our earnings and retirement.
I remember the fact that our careers got extended out to 65. How about another week of vacation for 5 more years of service, how about increasing the multiplier so we can get credit for 30 years instead of 25 towards retirement (then we could at least earn 60% of our high 5) and how about increasing the pay scale out to 20 years so we have higher pay rates for our longer careers. I'm sick of trying to just maintain the status quo, how about some improvements to pay, retirement, vacation and quality of life. I want an exceptional TA and I don't have any problem saying that I want the best pay, benefits and compensation in the business because I think we have earned them.
Going into peak, record profits, pilot shortage, record stock price, rapidly growing executive compensation and bonuses--I guess we probably don't have any leverage do we? I'm sure if we wait another 10 years the company will reward us for our patience and loyalty and we will probably have just as much leverage then too. Can you blame the company for offering us another crappy deal? We have gladly taken every other one they have given us. I really like my job, I don't think the company is evil, I just want what I have earned--A real pay raise, protecting the value of my retirement, and some quality of life improvements. You do what you want, but if the rumors are true I'm absolutely voting NO!!!
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Old 08-22-2015 | 07:04 PM
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I stated in one of these threads months ago that it will take 15% to get me to waste my time reading the rest. I feel even more strongly now.

10% = kiss my a$$

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Old 08-22-2015 | 07:25 PM
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Please don't give anyone the idea of going to 20 year pay scales when most everyone else is already at 12. Money upfront please.
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Old 08-22-2015 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
What?

FDX B plan pays 7% up to IRS 401(a)(17) compensation limit($265,000 in 2015)...Then stops, period.
Actually I believe the Defined Compensation CAP B-FUND + 401K+ company Match+ Sick Buy Back (I think IRS 413) is Capped at $54,000K for 2014.
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Old 08-22-2015 | 07:55 PM
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No vote here!! 10%, no A plan increase, we have them, now is the time!! No more of this BS. Come'on Chuck, don't sell us another turd sandwich!!
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