View Poll Results: How Will You Vote on the FedEx TA?
I'm a definite YES
65
16.93%
I'm a definite NO
170
44.27%
Don't know yet, but leaning towards YES
56
14.58%
Don't know yet, but leaning towards NO
75
19.53%
TA, what TA?
18
4.69%
Voters: 384. You may not vote on this poll
Informal TA Vote
#141
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 26
I've not flown any extra in 4 years. I take every bit of my earned vacation. With 4 years or less to go till I'm out of here I could vote yes, take the pitiful pay raises, and live within the new work rules for my limited time left. I could work like a slave trying to hit all the gates to sell back my full DSA, but I've worked like that for a four month stretches and believe me that kind of pace will kill you. To do that for 2 years, with no vacation, no sick, you'll be dead before you can spend it. So in good conscience I cannot leave my fellow pilots to live with this very bad TA. This TA will set the tone for the next 20-30 years. What we give up today we will never get back. A lot of pilots keep saying if we turn this down it will take another 2 years to get another TA. Do you think the company really want to go another 2 years or so with a ****ed off crew force that will give nothing back to help this company. Frankly I like to see the company get a little bloody nose from this pilot group. My vote is a resounding NO.
My sincere thanks too JJ!
#142
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 2,756
I always assume that people's avatars must be pictures of themselves. Therefore, we must have quite a few hot babes at this company.
#143
#144
New Hire
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 1
I think what each one of us has to do is ask the question "What are my top four issues or deal breakers with this T/A? And we're they addressed to my satisfaction?" I think if each of us were honest we would have to say this contract falls woefully short of our expectations. The MEC is highlighting very small and inconsequential gains, gains that we have paid for with concessions. Sick time buy back and no improvement whatsoever in retirement are not improvements. The sick buy back is pennies on the dollar and will encourage folks to not use it, thus the company will be able to reduce manning in senior seats resulting in slower upgrades and progression for the junior guy. Being able to bid for training slots is nice but is it worth giving up Passover Pay? The penalty pay falls short on transitions in a big way. 1% bump in B fund is eaten up buy the added costs of healthcare. Retirement is a joke! Same amount when you retire as what it was when I got hired many, many years ago, just my buying power is way down. I didn't realize we were back to cost neutral negotiating. The company has been caught with their pants down! They are short and flights aren't going. We will never have this much influence again because the company will never allow itself to be put in this position again. We need to send this rag back,
#146
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: 757 Capt
Posts: 107
Delta voted down their TA and fired most of their union officers. First time ever. Remember when you say our contract is better. Delta Pilots are receiving huge profit sharing checks (my understanding is that they were larger than our 3 year back pay checks). Anyone have good numbers for how much they might have received?
UPS pilots stand up for themselves and are getting ready to take a strike vote. We are watching our management team take on the adversarial management style these poor guys have had to deal with for a long time. UPS pilots are sick of it and I know we have only had it for a few years but I am sick of it already too. I refuse to accept this as the new norm. We need to protect our work rules, tighten up the language and improve our QOL.
FedEx pilots receive a near decade long contract extension with numerous concessions. Historically we have always eaten the crumbs management has given us. The union is spending our 1.9% selling this inadequate deal to us as a winner. It is going to take a grass roots movement from the crew force to defeat this "Iran Deal TA". The company and our union would have us believe "any deal is better than no deal". I believe "no deal is better than a bad deal, especially a decade long bad deal".
If we can finally find our spines and vote this down we can start working to get the deal we deserve. Those day time cubicle union officer yes voting flyers need to do the right thing and resign if we vote this down, so we can get some new representation more aligned with the crew forces interests. We don't need an expeditious TA, we need the industry leading TA that we have earned. FedEx management has gooned staffing up so bad they need us and we stand ready like always, but don't insult us with this turd of a TA.
What I want is pretty simple:
1) A real pay raise not mere cost of living
2) No work rule concessions and a few improvements. (We ain't bankrupt)
3) Protect the value of my current benefits and specifically identify the maximum cost increases we will incur during the lifetime of the agreement. (Health care)
4) Protect the value of my retirement. I am not willing to watch inflation erode the value of my A plan for another decade.
UPS pilots stand up for themselves and are getting ready to take a strike vote. We are watching our management team take on the adversarial management style these poor guys have had to deal with for a long time. UPS pilots are sick of it and I know we have only had it for a few years but I am sick of it already too. I refuse to accept this as the new norm. We need to protect our work rules, tighten up the language and improve our QOL.
FedEx pilots receive a near decade long contract extension with numerous concessions. Historically we have always eaten the crumbs management has given us. The union is spending our 1.9% selling this inadequate deal to us as a winner. It is going to take a grass roots movement from the crew force to defeat this "Iran Deal TA". The company and our union would have us believe "any deal is better than no deal". I believe "no deal is better than a bad deal, especially a decade long bad deal".
If we can finally find our spines and vote this down we can start working to get the deal we deserve. Those day time cubicle union officer yes voting flyers need to do the right thing and resign if we vote this down, so we can get some new representation more aligned with the crew forces interests. We don't need an expeditious TA, we need the industry leading TA that we have earned. FedEx management has gooned staffing up so bad they need us and we stand ready like always, but don't insult us with this turd of a TA.
What I want is pretty simple:
1) A real pay raise not mere cost of living
2) No work rule concessions and a few improvements. (We ain't bankrupt)
3) Protect the value of my current benefits and specifically identify the maximum cost increases we will incur during the lifetime of the agreement. (Health care)
4) Protect the value of my retirement. I am not willing to watch inflation erode the value of my A plan for another decade.
Last edited by FDXAV8R; 09-15-2015 at 05:54 PM. Reason: grammar
#148
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 2,756
It would be more statistically significant if there was a way to change one's vote on here, and I don't think there is. As people start doing their own research and learn more about it, I believe that many of those yes, or leaning yes, will be changed to no.
#150
Part Time Employee
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: Dispersing Green House Gasses on a Global Basis
Posts: 1,918
In the crew room a few nights ago most of the pilots there said they do not look at APC anymore because of the incessant whining from FDX1
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