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Old 09-30-2015, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by iarapilot View Post
So because we didnt raise it 2 contracts ago we shouldnt raise it now. I see. And the only possibility for them to raise it is if have a collective will.

As far as the lanyard goes, I have one for you. I know you have an I am an irrational spineless fearing short term gain with long term loss FedEx pilot lanyard. A mouthful, eh! And, that ship seems to be sailing better than I have ever seen in my 18 years. Not meant to be a personal attack, but an observation.

On a more serious note, your posts from the past made you sound so much different than now Lag. You seemed to have stood for more, IMO. What the heck happened?
Words mean things. We should have had an uncapped A Plan with/or a cola with the 2006 contract, we didn't, the law changed, and now we will never get one. At least in the opinion of ALPA national R&I guys who have seen the company books. I trust them you don't. OK by me. Make this personal if you want, as always I consider the source. It is funny the guy who wants to vote against the MEC majority vote and the NCs work is questioning my team player chops.
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Old 09-30-2015, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG View Post
Words mean things. We should have had an uncapped A Plan with/or a cola with the 2006 contract, we didn't, the law changed, and now we will never get one. At least in the opinion of ALPA national R&I guys who have seen the company books. I trust them you don't. OK by me. Make this personal if you want, as always I consider the source. It is funny the guy who wants to vote against the MEC majority vote and the NCs work is questioning my team player chops.

Just for the record, you sure do assume a lot with respect to what I think. And I had to jab you with the lanyard nonsense, seeing how you jabbed me first!

And now voting against the MEC majority is somehow a negative??!! Correct me if I am wrong, but werent you a 32%er on HKG FDA LOA1?

And boy, you have changed over the years, seemingly way left. And it is not personal, it is an observation.
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Old 09-30-2015, 07:51 AM
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Just for the record, you sure do assume a lot with respect to what I think. And I had to jab you with the lanyard nonsense, seeing how you jabbed me first!

And now voting against the MEC majority is somehow a negative??!! Correct me if I am wrong, but werent you a 32%er on HKG FDA LOA1?

And boy, you have changed over the years, seemingly way left. And it is not personal, it is an observation.
You are correct. I voted against the LOAs and the interim contract. This TA fixes a lot of those mistakes. The FDAs are better and 4A2b is much better. The travel banks are better. Commuting is easier. I understand the no votes. You guys think this pilot group has the unity to force Fred to beg us to accept an unlimited A Plan. I don't. That is not fear, that is a reasoned opinion, which I acknowledge the inverse can be reasonable too.

I wish you no voters spent half the time figuring out the yes votes we yes voters spend on what the no voters think. Instead you chalk it up to Low T.

I can live with the vote however it turns out. GRD probably need to be put on suicide watch.
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Old 09-30-2015, 08:06 AM
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Lag, just remember that my vote cancels your vote.
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Old 09-30-2015, 08:30 AM
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Lag, just remember that my vote cancels your vote.
Just so you aren't one of those guys that think I want to convert them. I just want you to be happy in the end. I may change my vote back to no if we don't change the long layover hotel in LA back to the HGI. Venice Beach or the 405, no contest.
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Old 09-30-2015, 08:35 AM
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You are correct. I voted against the LOAs and the interim contract. This TA fixes a lot of those mistakes. The FDAs are better and 4A2b is much better. The travel banks are better. Commuting is easier. I understand the no votes. You guys think this pilot group has the unity to force Fred to beg us to accept an unlimited A Plan. I don't. That is not fear, that is a reasoned opinion, which I acknowledge the inverse can be reasonable too.

I wish you no voters spent half the time figuring out the yes votes we yes voters spend on what the no voters think. Instead you chalk it up to Low T.

I can live with the vote however it turns out. GRD probably need to be put on suicide watch.

Well, I guess you just shot down your comment about me voting against the majority of the MEC! Heck, The FDA LOA was unanimous minus one and you voted against.

Where do I begin to comment about logic??!! And, low T!
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Old 09-30-2015, 09:28 AM
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Again I never said it was wrong to vote against the MEC, I just said us yes voter are accused of being out for ourselves not team players. I said that is illogical in the face of which side the MEC is on. My point isn't that one side is a bunch screwed up selfish rubes who can't see the obvious. That is the no voters main theme. I think voting yes or no is business decision with rational arguments on both sides. You guys are the ones who can't accept that.

I am very happy with my no votes on the LOA and the "bridge to where we started" contract. If we vote no, it will make my 2017 contract prediction much more likely. If you look back on these pages you will see where I recommended we negotiate a new hire min wage over there, we have that now if we vote yes.
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