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Old 01-29-2016 | 12:42 PM
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So, is the new "Established" column on the trip recap for the updated bank accepted fares, after the tickets have been purchased by Global Travel?
To answer my own question: trip recaps are now showing the new accepted fares method, to be implemented in June. A nice gain with the new CBA.
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Old 01-29-2016 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
To answer my own question: trip recaps are now showing the new accepted fares method, to be implemented in June. A nice gain with the new CBA.
Actually scheduled for March. Implementation table #48 right?
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Old 01-29-2016 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyBoyd
Actually scheduled for March. Implementation table #48 right?
I'm sure you're right. I asked Crew Audit over the phone, they said June. I didn't take the time to look at the implementation table. Thanks for clarifying.
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Old 02-14-2016 | 04:38 PM
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That is almost correct...Somebody needs to communicate this!

The new Baseline/Established fares will be shown on your pairings starting in March(Phase 2). BUT, you will not get bank credit for them until implemented in Phase 3, June-Target, Sept-Deadline.

Don't try spending the Established Fares that you'll start seeing on March pairings, until Phase 3(at least June)!

The company couldn't possibly afford to do it any sooner. Where would they find the money? I mean, they just announced another $3.2 Billion stock buyback. That brings it up to $8 Billion, just since 2014. We're just lucky we could keep our A plan.

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Old 02-14-2016 | 05:06 PM
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Thanks for that info, Busboy. That is good to know.
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Old 02-21-2016 | 10:25 AM
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Does anyone know exactly what this means?

8.C.4.c. The Company shall pay all fees associated with scheduled deadhead tickets. Fees associated with an unused deviation ticket shall not be allowable unless a Company schedule change was the reason why the ticket could not be used, or had to be changed. These costs/fees shall be handled in accordance with Section 8.C.5.b., and shall be limited to the actual cost but shall not exceed $25 per transaction.

So, if you buy a non-refundable ticket and the company revises your trip(like that would ever happen)...We can no longer expense the entire cancellation fee from our bank? Now it's only up to $25?

Looks like yet another win.
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Old 02-21-2016 | 11:23 AM
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Of course you keep the bank and if you bought the ticket through the company you are covered.
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Old 02-22-2016 | 10:13 AM
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I don't know what "...if you bought the ticket through the company you are covered." means.

Covered for what? You bought a ticket you didn't use and still have to expense it.
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Old 02-22-2016 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
I don't know what "...if you bought the ticket through the company you are covered." means.

Covered for what? You bought a ticket you didn't use and still have to expense it.
Did you read the note below the paragraph you quoted. Seems pretty explanatory. If you ordered the ticket through PFC or Global travel they cover 100% of the change fees if the company changes the pairing.

Note: When a deviating pilot arranges for the booking of his deviation travel, either via an electronic system(s) or by phone contact with the Company’s travel department or vendor, the Company is responsible for any of the above-listed fees that may be incurred due to the cancellation of the scheduled travel, and/or the booking of the pilot’s deviation travel itinerary. However, in the event the pilot makes any subsequent changes to his deviation travel itinerary, and if those changes result in any of the above-listed fees, he shall be responsible for those fees.
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Old 02-22-2016 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
Did you read the note below the paragraph you quoted. Seems pretty explanatory. If you ordered the ticket through PFC or Global travel they cover 100% of the change fees if the company changes the pairing.

Note: When a deviating pilot arranges for the booking of his deviation travel, either via an electronic system(s) or by phone contact with the Company’s travel department or vendor, the Company is responsible for any of the above-listed fees that may be incurred due to the cancellation of the scheduled travel, and/or the booking of the pilot’s deviation travel itinerary. However, in the event the pilot makes any subsequent changes to his deviation travel itinerary, and if those changes result in any of the above-listed fees, he shall be responsible for those fees.
Yes, I read that. Did you read the language above the note you quoted? It seems pretty self explanatory that the "above-listed fees that may be incurred", "shall be limited to actual cost but shall not exceed $25 per transaction."

8.C.4.c. The Company shall pay all fees associated with scheduled deadhead tickets. Fees associated with an unused deviation ticket shall not be allowable unless a Company schedule change was the reason why the ticket could not be used, or had to be changed. These costs/fees shall be handled in accordance with Section 8.C.5.b., and shall be limited to the actual cost but shall not exceed $25 per transaction.

Note: When a deviating pilot arranges for the booking of his deviation travel, either via an electronic system(s) or by phone contact with the Company’s travel department or vendor, the Company is responsible for any of the above-listed fees that may be incurred due to the cancellation of the scheduled travel, and/or the booking of the pilot’s deviation travel itinerary. However, in the event the pilot makes any subsequent changes to his deviation travel itinerary, and if those changes result in any of the above-listed fees, he shall be responsible for those fees.


Nowhere does it say that the company will cover 100% of the change fees. Unless, they're less than $25, of course. What fees, caused by not using a ticket, do you think they're limiting themselves to?
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