It appears their plan is not to add the overage to your bank. If they administered it that way, they wouldn't come up with the payroll deduction...payroll deduction reversal scheme.

If it was added to your bank, you wouldn't have a "payroll deduction" in the first place.

Maybe.

 

The way I unde stand the process, a month with extra bank can affect the two months on either side of it. First, the excess is cut in half. Second, it can be applied backwards to address any shortfall in the previous month (which is where the reversal would happen). Finally, anything remaining is added to the next month's bank for future use.

 

So, it's Sep 01. Has anyone seen or heard anything about the overage carryover?

 

ALPA needs to step in and hold the company accountable to what the contract says. The deadline was Sept 1. I still have not received my notification to rollover my June Bank.

 

I just submitted an insight report. There should be 4400 more submitted....

 

FCIF up. Turned on next Tuesday, retro to June, manual inputs by the bean counters temporary solution.

 

Let's see if it changes in the next few weeks, but using the Fox system now, the last sentence above doesn't appear to be true (??yet??)

There's a new column in Fox titled "Bank Allowance" where you can click and view your bank allowances for prior month, current month and next month all in one pop up window

It then gives you the choice to allocate half the current month excess balance to prior or previous month

However, if you don't have a deficit in the prior or previous month, it won't let you roll it back or roll it forward

(A window will pop up stating --- Does not have a deficit)

Thus, it appears you'll only have one chance to rollover half of any excess bank allowance

It won't be halved and rolled over perpetually

If you don't use it the next month to offset a deficit it's gone (??forever??)

Hope I'm wrong, but that's the way it seems with current Fox pop up windows

 

I know plain English is not often followed but here is the contractual language. Even an ALPA lawyer should be able to win this.

Any DBA balance remaining after application of Section
8.C.2.a.ii.(a) above shall be added to the pilot’s deviation
bank in the immediately subsequent bid period.

Example: For the April bid period, the pilot incurred allow-
able deviation expenses which exceeded his April devia-
tion bank by $200. In May, the pilot incurred allowable
deviation expenses which were $1,000 less than his de-
viation bank. The pilot’s DBA for May was $500, of which
$200 rolled back to offset the pilot’s April overspend. The
remaining $300 of the pilot’s May DBA shall be included
in the pilot’s June deviation bank.

 

Made some typos above that may be confusing,and only noticed after them after it was too late to edit my post.

Sentences 4 & 5 above should have read...

It then gives you the choice to allocate half the current month excess balance to prior or next month

However, if you don't have a deficit in the prior or next month, it won't let you roll it back or roll it forward

 

As poorly and slowly as this provision is being implemented, I would would not put much stock in the current state of events. The contract language along with examples is very clear.

"The remaining $300 of the pilot’s May DBA shall be included in the pilot’s June deviation bank."

There is no stipulation on existence of deficit to roll excess forward. I'd give it a little while longer before declaring failure. Especially since the first month of official implementation isn't even complete (regardless of the company's well lauded "early" start and their announcements patting themselves on their back).