So as I read it, this is how this is going to work:

Let's say you fly a domestic line and over the summer you are able to hold cities within driving distance of your home due to vacations, good VTOs, other people's scheduling, etc., so you use very little of your deviation bank.

June excess bank $1200
(Because there is no deficit in the following month there is no rollover)

July excess bank $1700
(Because there is no deficit in either the following or preceding month there is no rollover or rollback)

August excess bank $1800
(Again, because there is no deficit in either the following or preceding month there is no rollover or rollback)

In September you are back on lines that you regularly hold that are not within driving distance. You have to buy 4-6 plane tickets.
September excess bank $120.
(Because there is no deficit in September there is no rollover of half of August's $1800 excess bank.)

In October you wind up with a line with the combination of low accepted fares and high fares from your home city. You exceed your deviation bank by $450. Now you can apply half of your $120 excess bank from September. Net funds due company: $390, despite the fact you had $3700 of remaining deviation funds over the summer.

In November you once again exceed your deviation bank by $300.

In December you have $100 of remaining funds. You can rollback half the excess to reduce the amount due to the company from November so you owe $250 for your November report.

It looks like we left a lot of money on the table.

 

As I read it, this is how it's going to work:

 

Shack Sluggo. I don't know where you guys are getting this requirement for a deficit to get a rollover. I read that nowhere. Your excess rolls over - period.

How would a deficit in the following month even be known until after that month is flown and the report is closed? You think the plan is to wait until sometime in late August/early September when July's report is submitted and closed to decide if the excess from June can roll forward bcause it's finally been determined there is a deficit in July?

 

That would really be swell...If you guys were in FDX contract admin. But, you're not.

So, you know where guys are getting this? From trying to transfer their overages. The system that FDX has set up will only allow you to transfer to cover a deficit. It specifically will not allow you to transfer the entire amount of your overage to the next month. I've tried.

Obviously, the company doesn't see it the way it's written. Shocker! It's probably in the negotiating notes.

Odd that we haven't heard anything from the Association on this one, eh?


Yes. That's exactly how their plan is functioning.

 

Considering the myriad of messages regarding the temporary fixes being used by crew audit, I guess I'm willing to take a wait and see attitude. They have been pretty clear that the computer programming is lagging and they are going to have to use some human intervention in the process to "un-eff" things in the short term.

If it is still as you say it after those types of messages have stopped and they are saying it's good to go, then we can raise hell.

 

Of course...We won't really know how the rollover system works until the Sept expense reports are closed. That would be the first additional month that overage from our July exp reports, not used in August, would be rolled into.

Clear as mud?

Keeping my fingers crossed that everyone agrees that the contract language means what it says.

 

Anyone else having problems with the DBA rollover system? I had a surplus in Sept and a debt in Oct but when I try to move funds the only option is to move them from Sept to Sept??

Good news though...the "auto payroll deduction system" works just fine and I got a crew notification that the debt from Oct will come out of my Dec paycheck.

Funny, I was just looking out the back window day dreaming of a beautiful lady in a red swimsuit standing on the diving board above my new pool, but alas I guess the pool will have to wait till President's Day.

 

Seems odd. Is your Oct report closed? "Pending" doesn't cut it.

Both month's expense reports have to be "closed" by crew travel audit before any funds can be moved between them.

 

They are both closed. Looks like they changed the system. The screens are not the same as they used to be. Can't move any money from any month to another.

After further research, looks like there is a notice on the FOX home page about changes to they system and how they are taking away the money temporarily (hopefully) to adjust the system without duplication.

 

Did the math in today's FCIF on DBA allowance make sense to everyone? They provided an example where Nov's excess was $1000. You have $1000 for Nov, or the DBA is $500 to use forward or back one month, of which $200 was used for Oct. All that makes sense. But they said $75 for Jan? Wouldn't it be $300 for Dec (of which it actually says that would be the amount for "subsequent months") and, if not used at all in Dec, $150 for Jan- not the $75 as stated? Am I missing something?