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Old 06-10-2007 | 08:09 PM
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I will go check out ATP's school in Long Beach. I think it's close to Rainbow, so I can stop by there to see first hand how drastic the difference is.

Thanks all for the advice so far...
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Old 06-10-2007 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ready2fly
Thanks daytona,

so I'm gathering that ATP is most likely to be the best place to go for good instruction, experience, price and timeframe.

I am a little worried about feeling like I'm being run through a production line, and not getting a very personalized experience though.
No ATP is not the best place to go. It is one of many options in the country. Search the archives here. There is a wealth of info. PS-ATP is over $50K these days if you figure in the PPL training. You can do it for at least 40% less elsewhere.
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Old 06-10-2007 | 08:28 PM
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Then go to your local FBO and train there. Find an instructor who can work with you on your schedule and get done that way. And yeah, two years would be a shortcut. You'll pay your dues one way or the other.
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Old 06-10-2007 | 08:39 PM
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I read an thread about Rainbow over at PPRUNE, here it is.

Read down to read the complaints: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=213688
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Old 06-11-2007 | 03:35 AM
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Interesting stuff RJ.


So maybe it isn't such a bad idea to shop around for a very local "FBO" (still don't know exact meaning), around Burbank, Van Nuys, or Whittman, at least to get certified up to MEII, but I will still need to get a loan. I can't really pay as I go right now. Don't have enough $$ coming in to get this done in a timely manner and still pay the bills. So, I have decided to use my GI Bill benefits [Coast Guard], which will pay for 60% of every billable hour, up to around $35,000 (except for my private license). The private cert will cost me at least $2500-$3500 right up front if I shop around. I will pay for that part out of pocket from my savings. No problem. Although it would be nice to just factor that cost into the total $ amt of the student loan I will ultimately have to get, to include every certification, exam fee, add on, transition, etc.. And make payments on it once I get a better paying job. But here's the catch, the VA will only pay out $1000 per month, once they start receiving claims. And again, only at a rate of 60% of every billable hour they receive a claim for. Which basically means I will have to get a loan, rack up as many billable hours as possible in a month, and then use the $1000 GI checks to make payments on my loan (until they run out), at which point I will be paying from savings again. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that time, really is of the essence in this case. So I will get a loan, be able to make about 35 monthly payments of $1000 and then... hopefully after 35 months or 3 years, I'll be hired on with a company making enough money to pay the rest of the loan off (probably another $35,000), that could be stretched out over the next 15 years if necessary, and still pay the bills.

UNDER THESE CERCUMSTANCES...


In your opinion, would it be better to go to an ATP type program, or continue on with "FBO" after I complete my private cert.?
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Old 06-11-2007 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
My advice is there are no shortcuts. Get your CFI, work for a while, and work your way up. That's it. End of discussion.
This is his attempt to knock ATP as a get there quick scheme...Its not. ATP is a refined / well-tested method of getting a pilot from - hours to regional hiring levels with the least amount of time wasted at the FBO in Florence, Alabama.

Go to ATP and get the training / experience you deserve.

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Old 06-11-2007 | 03:40 AM
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Excuse me, in everyone’s opinion...
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Old 06-11-2007 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by the King
Then go to your local FBO and train there. Find an instructor who can work with you on your schedule and get done that way. And yeah, two years would be a shortcut. You'll pay your dues one way or the other.
Don't go to your local FBO. It will set you back in time and money. Research and attend a accelerated program.

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Old 06-11-2007 | 03:43 AM
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Thanks LAFF,

You really stand behind this ATP progi huh!
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Old 06-11-2007 | 03:49 AM
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I really am tending to agree with u Mr. -LAFF
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