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Old 11-01-2007 | 08:56 AM
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I remember during my instrument training that there are a few locations that have DME arc approaches... does anyone know where those are? I am just curious and would like to fly a few in my FRASCA 141 time. Thanks!
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Old 11-01-2007 | 09:06 AM
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Old 11-01-2007 | 09:23 AM
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Sorry, I meant DME-Approach.... DME only. Not like VOR/DME or LOC/DME... its a DME arc to the runway/missed approach. So basically you descend along the arc and the end of the arc should be the runway.
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Old 11-01-2007 | 09:28 AM
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Oh, I think I heard of that like 30 years ago. I've never seen one in real life or heard of it since. Maybe somebody else knows.
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Old 11-01-2007 | 10:15 AM
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DME is on the way out. Nevertheless, I think there are a few places in Northern New York that have 'em. I'll have to check my charts and let you know.
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Old 11-01-2007 | 10:20 AM
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there's one in maryland..don't remember where..but look at the MD plates and you'll find it (it's nearish to the coast)
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Old 11-01-2007 | 11:58 AM
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Thanks, I found one:
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0711/05222VDTZ15.PDF

It was listed as a VOR/DME... I thought it would have just been listed as DME. Either way, thats a crazy approach and the hold is even crazier.
Time to load that one up in FRASCA
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Old 11-01-2007 | 12:10 PM
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The DME could be associated with a VOR or an ILS, so having VOR in the title is necessary to make the distinction. Furthermore, the VOR radials define points (SLOAF, CUMBE, GOVES, a "VDP", and the MAP) that are required for the approach and for the Missed Approach Procedure.

By "hold is even crazier" I assume you mean the Missed Approach holding pattern. The holding pattern itself is quite standard -- along a radial of the VOR. Perhaps you're referring to the Missed Approach Procedure routing itself, which includes a segment defined by a VOR/DME arc. While uncommon, I don't believe they are unusual.

Flying an arc (without an FMS) is becoming a lost skill. If there's a way to practice it, do it!







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Old 11-01-2007 | 01:32 PM
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It's my opinion that everyone should, every once in awhile if able, do a DME arc over a VOR. I'd have to check, but I THINK South Bend, IN has a DME arc approach.
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Old 11-01-2007 | 01:58 PM
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We have DME arcs all over here. Shelbyville, Chattanooga, Gallatin, and Lebanon all have DME arcs that lead onto a radial for final approach. The Lebanon arc is actually the 27 DME arc from BNA VOR so that's never fun if you do the full approach.
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