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11-01-2007 | 03:56 PM

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We have a DME arc here at Champaign/UofI. It arcs to a VOR radial so its just a "normal" VOR/DME. They are big on DME arcs and NDB approaches here.

11-01-2007 | 04:56 PM

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I get annoyed with the constant ID'ing of NDB approaches and holds.....

11-01-2007 | 05:10 PM

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Don't worry

the NDB is getting phased out but at least you can tune up some AM stations for your listening pleasure

11-01-2007 | 05:42 PM

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I prefer VOR and ILS approaches over all. 1450 ESPN is good to listen to while flying for awhile.

11-01-2007 | 06:06 PM

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Yeah, but if you can handle an NDB approach and do it well the rest is a cakewalk.

My airline's SOP doesn't even allow for NDB approaches.

Not that we need to do them anywhere we go anyway.

11-01-2007 | 08:09 PM

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90 degrees off the radial you're on

turn 10 twist 10

they're not so bad

11-01-2007 | 11:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilotpip

Yeah, but if you can handle an NDB approach and do it well the rest is a cakewalk.

My airline's SOP doesn't even allow for NDB approaches.

Not that we need to do them anywhere we go anyway.

I agree. I asked the chief pilot here why there is so much stress on NDB approaches. I mean I understand its good to know how to use them. She explained for doing cross countries incase thats all they have.

As a pilot, NDB approaches are good for getting yourself alligned with the runway, but I dont know if I would jump into the clouds with an NDB as my sole approach procedure. I doubt there even will be airports with sole NDBs too soon...

11-02-2007 | 10:09 AM

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when I was training at UofI they stressed that dme arc and the NDB...luckily i got a GPS plane and didn't have to do an NDB on my check ride.

I asked the same question years ago when I was having trouble with NDB and basically the same answer was said...NDB's at that time were more common, cheapier and had low Mx. Making it possible for lil non-towered airports to operate them. (thats what I was told in 02' as a freshmen)

That year in our ground school there was a poll done by the FAA (can't remember what publication) about IFR holds...it discovered that on average a professional pilots perform one hold a year and were thinking about eliminating holds all together...kinda would be nice...DISCUSS

11-02-2007 | 10:44 AM

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Getting rid of holds? Gosh, that would break my heart mand make me cry.....I had to go though all that crap learning them just for them to get rid of them!

11-02-2007 | 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by snippercr

I remember during my instrument training that there are a few locations that have DME arc approaches... does anyone know where those are? I am just curious and would like to fly a few in my FRASCA 141 time. Thanks!

KTEB (Teterboro, NJ) used to have a DME ARC approach. Maybe they still do.

If you're practicing them in a sim, just use any DME readout off a VOR and make the approach up.

This can be down with NDB approaches too.