PFT Pro/Con question
#51
Freezing,
I appreciate your responses and I thank you for your input. You are obviously passionate about this topic and the profession. As it is clear, I am looking for a means to progress my career in the fastest manner in which I can be a good pilot.
This happens every single day. A kid fresh out of college can come in with a fancy degree and take my job at any time. Or worse yet, your company can go through a private equity acquisition, as I just did, and the PE will bring in their chosen "golden boy". Now you are out on your butt.
I am researching this further. I just don't like the idea of instructing for a while. I am very concerned about the time factor.
I appreciate your responses and I thank you for your input. You are obviously passionate about this topic and the profession. As it is clear, I am looking for a means to progress my career in the fastest manner in which I can be a good pilot.
What if someone fresh out of college showed up one day offering to pay your employer to do YOUR office job because its something they've always dreamed of doing and its a good way for them to quickly advance their career? Now you're out on your ass. How's that feel to you? That is how most other pilots in the industry view Gulfstream and the equivalent "pay to play" outfits. You are trivializing an important job that we take very seriously.
I am researching this further. I just don't like the idea of instructing for a while. I am very concerned about the time factor.
#52
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Posts: 3,966
To be honest with you, a good instructing gig can be as rewarding as an airline job, if not more so. Just depends on whats important to you. But I stand by my statement: cutting a corner at the expense of everyone else is NOT the ethical way to achieve your goal. You are PAYING FOR A JOB. Just remember that. Gulfstream is not a flight school, it is an AIRLINE.
#53
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Joined APC: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,404
With the way regionals are dropping their mins nowdays, there really is no reason to go the pft route. Like some here have said it may be held against you in the future. You will always have to go through a hiring board and how do you think most of them feel? Probably like most of the posters here.
#54
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Posts: 3,966
This happens every single day. A kid fresh out of college can come in with a fancy degree and take my job at any time. Or worse yet, your company can go through a private equity acquisition, as I just did, and the PE will bring in their chosen "golden boy". Now you are out on your butt.
I am researching this further. I just don't like the idea of instructing for a while. I am very concerned about the time factor.
I am researching this further. I just don't like the idea of instructing for a while. I am very concerned about the time factor.
#55
Freezing:
Off the top of your head do you know which regionals have lowered their mins to CPL w/ME rating? Right now I'm at work and don't really have the luxury of time to look it up.
I kinda logon, add a comment, then logoff. Keeps the super off your a$$.
atp
Off the top of your head do you know which regionals have lowered their mins to CPL w/ME rating? Right now I'm at work and don't really have the luxury of time to look it up.
I kinda logon, add a comment, then logoff. Keeps the super off your a$$.
atp
#56
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Posts: 3,966
Off the top of my head I would say Mesa, Pinnacle and Eagle. I'm sure there are more and probably plenty that are hurting enough for warm bodies that they will at least interview you with a wet commercial.
#58
On Reserve
Joined APC: May 2007
Posts: 16
This is too funny.......everything you guys are saying is total BS. Im currently at GIA (Quite happy too....) and have been offered a job with Republic, Comair and Expressjet not to mention 2 opportunities outside of the country to fly airbuses and a 73NG.
Most of the guys who are captains with 1000 have taken off to SWA NKS and including North American as an FO on the 767. You do whatever the hell you want as long as you make youre goal be CFI towing banners in a single piston over the beach or PFT we will all get to where we want some day. Yea it was 30K but the training was pretty intense and I can bet all of you guys who think its BS, alot of people from pinnacle, eagle and comair with a ton of rj time have washed out either in ground or sim training. Before you blast anyone for wanting to go to GIA for a career change or bypassing the instructor route, make sure you know youre giving out proper info and stop with the o god hes PFT no job for you cause thats bs.
And as far as you 767 whatever the hell at UPS, you shouldnt say nothing cause theres 2 girls who left GIA as captains on the embraer who are flying the 57/67 at UPS. Shows how bad gulfstream is huh....
Most of the guys who are captains with 1000 have taken off to SWA NKS and including North American as an FO on the 767. You do whatever the hell you want as long as you make youre goal be CFI towing banners in a single piston over the beach or PFT we will all get to where we want some day. Yea it was 30K but the training was pretty intense and I can bet all of you guys who think its BS, alot of people from pinnacle, eagle and comair with a ton of rj time have washed out either in ground or sim training. Before you blast anyone for wanting to go to GIA for a career change or bypassing the instructor route, make sure you know youre giving out proper info and stop with the o god hes PFT no job for you cause thats bs.
And as far as you 767 whatever the hell at UPS, you shouldnt say nothing cause theres 2 girls who left GIA as captains on the embraer who are flying the 57/67 at UPS. Shows how bad gulfstream is huh....
#59
Basically if the PFT scheme is replacing a paying job and instead sold that cockpit seat to someone, then it is wrong.
We all PFT, pay for ratings and buy our time (think multi block time), but the above example is where I draw the line.
We all PFT, pay for ratings and buy our time (think multi block time), but the above example is where I draw the line.
#60
Ok Mia1900fo, that's one of the most intelligent response's I've ever seen on here.
Besides your complete lack of grammar, punctuation, and proper english, you are like many of your constituents with an attitude problem. You won’t find any friends here acting like this. I’m not saying there can’t be disagreements, but by the way you handled this situation, you prove our point for many of us not only about yourself, but the type of person that participates in PFJ programs.
Besides your complete lack of grammar, punctuation, and proper english, you are like many of your constituents with an attitude problem. You won’t find any friends here acting like this. I’m not saying there can’t be disagreements, but by the way you handled this situation, you prove our point for many of us not only about yourself, but the type of person that participates in PFJ programs.
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