PFT Pro/Con question
#21
I've never come across anyone I think could benefit from that sort of program, and I hope I never do. But i'm certain of 2 things:
Somewhere out there, there is somebody who is in a unique enough situation to warrant that kind of program.
There aren't enough of those unique situations to keep those programs running. Hence they must be full of people who are willing to shoot themselves in the leg and screw themselves and the rest of us in the long run.
For THOSE poeple, I have no respect whatsoever. It's a bad thought, but I kinda hope they get stuck in those crappy "jobs" and see how foolish they've been.
Somewhere out there, there is somebody who is in a unique enough situation to warrant that kind of program.
There aren't enough of those unique situations to keep those programs running. Hence they must be full of people who are willing to shoot themselves in the leg and screw themselves and the rest of us in the long run.
For THOSE poeple, I have no respect whatsoever. It's a bad thought, but I kinda hope they get stuck in those crappy "jobs" and see how foolish they've been.
#22
Well like I said Slice, I've never come across any situation so extreme that it warrants these programs. If I ever had anything to do with hiring pilots, you'd better have a darn good explanation to give when I ask why you went there, because you're just the type of person the industry needs to get rid of.
PS. Cartman rocks
PS. Cartman rocks
#23
Well like I said Slice, I've never come across any situation so extreme that it warrants these programs. If I ever had anything to do with hiring pilots, you'd better have a darn good explanation to give when I ask why you went there, because you're just the type of person the industry needs to get rid of.
PS. Cartman rocks
PS. Cartman rocks
#24
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I was once touched inappropriately by a PFTer. The horrible emotional scarring that resulted has led to my promise to rid the world of PFTers and their perverse definition of pleasure.
#25
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I believe that SkyHigh and SeniorSkipper both have valid points. It's just at what Part you are flying under. If I'm going to go the 135 route, then absolutely I need to have a firm foundation in terms of being able to make a decision quickly and independently of others b/c some aspects of 135 flying is a single pilot operation. On the other hand, if I'm flying 91 or 121, then I need to be able to conform to the company. I believe it's termed as....being a team player. Each pilot has his/her respective duties in the cockpit which contributes to the overall successful trip/flight.
Personally speaking, I have considered the PFT program at Gulfstream and not for the "usual suspect" reasons. There are some people out there who are an exception to the rule and are good low time pilots. I would venture to guess less than 2% of all low time pilots (those who actually meet the mins for some regionals) are capable and competent enough to fly an RJ. JMO. However, for me it's different.
I would remain in the South Florida area. My fiance/wife wants to remain here for now. With me flying and her working in the school system as an administrator would allow us to be able to live comfortablly. In addition, I have a 3 yr old son. We want at least 2 more children. It is important to me to be home every night during his formative years. I don't know how many times I have heard some of you talk about the importance of family, QOL and the like. My love for flying DOES NOT SUPERCEDE THE LOVE & SECURITY OF MY FAMILY. My plan would be to stay at GIA for at least 2-3 years, then apply to the Majors...whether pax or cargo. If that scenario didn't play out, seeing my wife & children happy and still able to enjoy a flying career at that level would be ok with me. I guess I can sum it up by saying, "No greater love that a man has than to lay down his life for his friends."
atp
Personally speaking, I have considered the PFT program at Gulfstream and not for the "usual suspect" reasons. There are some people out there who are an exception to the rule and are good low time pilots. I would venture to guess less than 2% of all low time pilots (those who actually meet the mins for some regionals) are capable and competent enough to fly an RJ. JMO. However, for me it's different.
I would remain in the South Florida area. My fiance/wife wants to remain here for now. With me flying and her working in the school system as an administrator would allow us to be able to live comfortablly. In addition, I have a 3 yr old son. We want at least 2 more children. It is important to me to be home every night during his formative years. I don't know how many times I have heard some of you talk about the importance of family, QOL and the like. My love for flying DOES NOT SUPERCEDE THE LOVE & SECURITY OF MY FAMILY. My plan would be to stay at GIA for at least 2-3 years, then apply to the Majors...whether pax or cargo. If that scenario didn't play out, seeing my wife & children happy and still able to enjoy a flying career at that level would be ok with me. I guess I can sum it up by saying, "No greater love that a man has than to lay down his life for his friends."
atp
#26
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I'll drink to that! However, i will say that those programs do have their place. For example, a late career changer may need to do it if he's got a family to feed and there are extenuating circumstances. But the 20-something who has left college in the past few years and just REALLY wants to flt big jets has no business there. The jets are there today, and they will be there tomorrow, and next week, and next year. What's the rush?
Yes you've always wanted to fly. Ever since you can remember. Guess what? Me too. If you've gone all these years and the desire to be in a jet hasn't mortally wounded you, believe me that a few more months (building time so that you can go to a real job) won't kill you either.
Yes you've always wanted to fly. Ever since you can remember. Guess what? Me too. If you've gone all these years and the desire to be in a jet hasn't mortally wounded you, believe me that a few more months (building time so that you can go to a real job) won't kill you either.
#27
How DARE you, fatboy!?!? I'm WAY beyond that stage (sarcasm).
LOL
I'm actually on my way to my commercial right now, but I always like talking to guys higher on the food chain- fun and educational at the same time (hence I'm on this forum). That's how I've managed to know a couple people at various stages of the journey.
#29
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You'll get to experience it first hand when you make your break into professional aviation. Typically used to coat management's fist before its rammed up your....well never mind. Don't need ANOTHER infraction this week
#30
It's a good thing I'm committed to "this airplane thing" (as one of my relatives puts it), else you guys would turn me right off the idea of flying. No foul though. Sometimes you need a bit of honesty here and there.
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