do i go to Embry-Riddle yes or not???? Help!!
07-19-2009, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bcrosier
Another important point - IF you choose to attend a university with an aviation program (again, pick the school based on the academic criteria OTHER than an aviation program): I don't know about all schools, but at some, the bottleneck is in the flight training portion - there are plenty of chairs available in the groundschools. You will gain more knowledge which you will use in the long term by focusing on being in quality groundschools (those that teach knowledge, not just passing a FAA written) than sweating the flight training. Not to discount the importance of quality flight instruction (by any means), but 10-20 years down the road it will be the knowledge you gained in subject areas covered in a good groundschool that you draw from routinely - you'll have had years and thousands of hours to refine the basic mechanics of moving the controls. While we all take pride in how well we maneuver the aircraft (and again, that is certainly important), it's the knowledge, reasoning, and decision making skills that truly set a professional pilot apart.
Riddle has its points, but for a job that pays 16 or 20 k a year to start, you have to wonder is it worth it. I managed to pay off my debt, but it was not easy. When your student loans are more than your car, rent, and all other expenses combined you have to ask yourself if you really want to sign up for this program.
This is coming for an out of work, 20 year captain who still has no solid job leads for after a year of looking for flying. Yes typed in both boeings and the airbus. The profession has taken a sprial downward, and continues to get worse. This is not what I imagined when I started. Just as long as you know what you are getting into, and don't expect things to get better, go for it. I do miss the flying and will jump at the chance to get back into the cockpit., but not at 20k/yr. I just can't do that.
07-19-2009, 12:43 PM
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Ham:
Although I see that you've already made up your mind, don't be quick to throw the baby out with the bath water. Sure is Riddle is expensive; that's a given; however, if it's flying you want to do, then I would recommend attending a local state university and getting your ratings and such at a local FBO. If flying is not what you wanna do and Riddle offers you a degree program that interests you, I would challenge you to research a little more as to what is the percentage of graduates that get hired right out of school. Also, identify what companies these graduates work for. Start networking.
Riddle offers an array of disciplines other than flying. One thing I can almost guarantee that if you did go to Riddle and finished in Arpt Ops/Business, you shouldn't have any difficulty getting on with any airport authority or governing body that operates a local airport; whether the airport is classified as small; meduim or large. They also offer degrees in Meteorology, Physics, Mathematics, etc.
All the best. Blue skies.
atp
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Daytona Campus
Although I see that you've already made up your mind, don't be quick to throw the baby out with the bath water. Sure is Riddle is expensive; that's a given; however, if it's flying you want to do, then I would recommend attending a local state university and getting your ratings and such at a local FBO. If flying is not what you wanna do and Riddle offers you a degree program that interests you, I would challenge you to research a little more as to what is the percentage of graduates that get hired right out of school. Also, identify what companies these graduates work for. Start networking.
Riddle offers an array of disciplines other than flying. One thing I can almost guarantee that if you did go to Riddle and finished in Arpt Ops/Business, you shouldn't have any difficulty getting on with any airport authority or governing body that operates a local airport; whether the airport is classified as small; meduim or large. They also offer degrees in Meteorology, Physics, Mathematics, etc.
All the best. Blue skies.
atp
(Fall Class of '87)
Daytona Campus
07-20-2009, 11:12 AM
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Should you go to Embry Riddle??? Here is the answer along with any 4 year degree in avition that is pilot specific....NO NO NO...HELL NO...NO NO NO NO NO YE-NOOOO! NO NO NO NO... HELL NO! NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO....AND SUPER HELL NO! EMBRY RIDDLE IS A JOKE! Along with any other college aviation program...and I went to one.
07-20-2009, 03:19 PM
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I went to Riddle and it opened some doors for me however in this industry I would recommend getting a non aviation degree regardless of what school you attend and maybe minoring in a Aviation related study if that is an option. Like others have said Purdue might be a better option in this economy.
07-23-2009, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by atpwannabe
Ham:
Although I see that you've already made up your mind, don't be quick to throw the baby out with the bath water. Sure is Riddle is expensive; that's a given; however, if it's flying you want to do, then I would recommend attending a local state university and getting your ratings and such at a local FBO. If flying is not what you wanna do and Riddle offers you a degree program that interests you, I would challenge you to research a little more as to what is the percentage of graduates that get hired right out of school
Although I see that you've already made up your mind, don't be quick to throw the baby out with the bath water. Sure is Riddle is expensive; that's a given; however, if it's flying you want to do, then I would recommend attending a local state university and getting your ratings and such at a local FBO. If flying is not what you wanna do and Riddle offers you a degree program that interests you, I would challenge you to research a little more as to what is the percentage of graduates that get hired right out of school
07-23-2009, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Hamburger090
hey guys, currently am the most confused person in the world. My issue is the following, and it requieres the help from guys like you!!!
I applied to Embry and got accepted whooo!!! but man!! i have read the posts about that school and they are terrible!!!(including that important guys to girls ratio
). And is true they are really really expensive.
I want to be an airline pilot no questions about it no matter what it takes, and i thought that Embry was the one till today. Please guys give me some schools that may be the same as embry and that will give me satisfiying results. am 19 and i am almost done with my private .
I am also looking at central washington university... please some help on what to do!!! give me some schools that are cheaper and are equal or is it worth to go to embry... ??????? Also what degree to consider??
I applied to Embry and got accepted whooo!!! but man!! i have read the posts about that school and they are terrible!!!(including that important guys to girls ratio
). And is true they are really really expensive.I want to be an airline pilot no questions about it no matter what it takes, and i thought that Embry was the one till today. Please guys give me some schools that may be the same as embry and that will give me satisfiying results. am 19 and i am almost done with my private .
I am also looking at central washington university... please some help on what to do!!! give me some schools that are cheaper and are equal or is it worth to go to embry... ??????? Also what degree to consider??
how about u go visit the schools and see what each has to offer...i would not recommend basing your choice on what people say on any forum!
07-23-2009, 02:39 PM
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I have worked for a major airline for 36 years and have flown the industry through it's highs and lows, including 5 1/2 years of cumlative furloughs. My advice to a good number of FO's and Capt's who have had sons and daughter's interested in aviation as a career is to have a degree or an occupation in something unrelated to aviation. When the industry takes yet another downturn and you get DUIed,fired, layed off, furloughed, or quit in disgust (tired of those 4 hour standup layovers sleeping in a jetway) you must have a fall back. A degree in Engineering, Education, an Apprenticeship in IBEW, Pipefitters, or Carpenters union...... The Coglins and Mesas of the industry will treat you poorly at best. Job security in this occupation, even with the majors, is a myth. So take your or your families hard earned $ and knock out your ratings at a Part 141 or Part 61 school, get back into college and finish your degree(s), pony up more $ for SIC training at Flight Safety and go out and live the dream/nightmare (your choice). That is what my 20 year old with her Private is doing right now.
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