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Old 06-20-2010 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by stbloc
What abbot buying 100-200 of multi time through one of these time building programs. That seems like a faster approach to getting hired. Why waste time once hiring picks up. Be ready to go. If you drop 15k for 200 hours of SIC turboprop time your resume will go to the top. Hiring is about to explode in 2-3 years and you want to be ready. 1000tt and 200 sic 135 turbo prop time will guarantee you an interview. That shows you are ready and can pass 121 groud school in the eyes on HR. If anyone disagrees feel free to chime in
Sounds exactly like the Gulfstream International, ATP, Key Lime Air, recruiting pitch. To bad they don't have the pukey smiley face on here...
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Old 06-20-2010 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by stbloc
What abbot buying 100-200 of multi time through one of these time building programs. That seems like a faster approach to getting hired. Why waste time once hiring picks up. Be ready to go. If you drop 15k for 200 hours of SIC turboprop time your resume will go to the top. Hiring is about to explode in 2-3 years and you want to be ready. 1000tt and 200 sic 135 turbo prop time will guarantee you an interview. That shows you are ready and can pass 121 groud school in the eyes on HR. If anyone disagrees feel free to chime in
In the strictest sense... you are correct. Maybe not TOP of the pile, but you will be in a better position than the struggling CFI trying to make ends meet and beg/barrow/plea/threaten for some multi time. Also, yes in 2-3 years you want to have your resume with 1000-2000 hours and 200-300 hours multi. There may be no "pilot shortage" but there will be SOME sort of movement and ultimately some hiring. Even the biggest naysayer wouldnt argue that the expected "shrinkage" of the industry will equal the age 65 retirees.

However, to beg the age old question... do the ends justify the means? How many jobs do you know would someone drop 15K that you could get for free (or get paid to get). Especially ones that have a starting pay usually less than 20k. Some people will drop 15-30k for a degree but the starting salary is MUCH higher than that of a regional airline.

But again in the strictest sense, you are correct.

And esa17, yes - if he wasn't serious places like Gulfstream Academy and Key Lime would not exist. Unfortunately, they are still thriving businesses...

Edit: fjetter beat me to it. I started writing then finished this up a few minutes later.
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Old 06-21-2010 | 06:05 AM
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Does this work for my feelings of "BUYING 135 SIC TIME"
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Old 06-21-2010 | 03:46 PM
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Pay for training or pay to play or buying your way into a job is not good no matter how you really put it.

BUT...there is a but. Management has zero problems with PFT and would see your 200 hours of paid for SIC turbine time and hire you without reservations.

I suppose the only problem you would run into would be respect. PFT is very looked down upon by 98% of all pilots in the industry who worked their way up from the bottom by whatever means they could. You would not have the respect of any pilots that you would work with for many years for come.

If you did not have a problem with that and had 20K to spare for some SIC time, you would stand a chance at getting hired.
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Old 06-21-2010 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by stbloc
Hiring is about to explode in 2-3 years and you want to be ready.


Who sold you that line of BS?
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Old 06-22-2010 | 08:39 AM
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Who sold you that line of BS?
I'm a 100hr PPL and my 6,000hr. CFII/MEI has said basically the same thing. I remain skeptical and work a day job but I hope he's right. I told him basically that if he's right, then he'd be hired way before I would be.

In the meantime I'm slowly working on my Instrument Rating...looking forward to when I don't have to stare at a computer all day long like a schmuck.
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Old 06-22-2010 | 09:08 AM
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Guys mins are coming way down 1000/100 will do for now.
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Old 06-22-2010 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Natca
Guys mins are coming way down 1000/100 will do for now.

Thats not comming down. Thats where they have been. There is, and never will be a pilt shortage. It's a myth created by people who want to keep their flight schools busy, and by those who run airlines to continue the race to the bottom by paying less than what you can make flipping burgers for In&Out.

P.S. 1000/100 is what they post. Mins. and competetive are, and always have been two completely different things. Just go ahead and give som PFT place your money for some 1900 time. Trust me, it'll make you competitive.

BTW, you have a link for a reputable company that has 1000/100 as mins?
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Old 06-22-2010 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NoseUpAttitude
I'm a 100hr PPL and my 6,000hr. CFII/MEI has said basically the same thing.

To anyone paying attention to this thread, someone said 1000/100 is the mins, and here we have a CFI with 6 times the amount who is still a CFI looking for his first taste of SJS. So, tell me, is 1000/100 still sound like it will get you a job sitting right seat?

Edit to add: I sit left seat, and was hired with 1700TT. But, I don't fly 121. I simply can't afford to work for that cheap.
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Old 06-22-2010 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
Pay for training or pay to play or buying your way into a job is not good no matter how you really put it.

BUT...there is a but. Management has zero problems with PFT and would see your 200 hours of paid for SIC turbine time and hire you without reservations.

I suppose the only problem you would run into would be respect. PFT is very looked down upon by 98% of all pilots in the industry who worked their way up from the bottom by whatever means they could. You would not have the respect of any pilots that you would work with for many years for come.

If you did not have a problem with that and had 20K to spare for some SIC time, you would stand a chance at getting hired.

And with this, the race continues.
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