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08-03-2006, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by surreal1221
This post shows your intelligence. . . I wish you luck in the real world.
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08-03-2006, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BURflyer
Ok keep thinking that maybe just maybe a reputable place will consider your onlin degree. The online courses should be used by guys who have no other way of earning something. Last resort. 30 yearolds who have no way of going back. If the thread starter is some 18 yearold kid I would advise him to go to a REAL college. I've been through a real college and have dome some online classes there too. I have to say that online you don't learn anything, nothin like the experience of being in class an interacting with others.
Totally disagree, I think people learn in different ways. Some learn better in the classroom while others learn better on their own with a guided curriculum. Why do you think the FAA gives the option to do a ground classroom course or a home study course for just about any certificate or rating?
08-03-2006, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BURflyer
How much do one of those online degrees cost anyways?
Same as normal tuition. Just depends whether or not you are paying in state or out of state tuition. The degree at UVSC is the exact same degree if you do it online or in the classroom. There is no difference on the diploma or your transcripts. You just have the option to take your classes on line or in the classroom. In most cases it is the same instructor conducting the course either way.
08-03-2006, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BURflyer
Ok so how much would a person doing online work pay for a BS degree? 5k, 20k?
Depends how many credits you are willing to take per semester. 120 credits are required for the bachelors degree. Here is a break down of the tuition cost.
http://www.uvsc.edu/tuition/pdf/tuitionfees.pdf
08-04-2006, 12:18 AM
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It is a very common misconception these days with the online degree.
Technically it is not even called an online degree, it is called "distance learning" and it is particularly convenient for those like me currently sitting overseas who are unable to continue their education in a traditional way.
Times are changing and so are the ways that people are doing things these days. I have around 28 credits of "traditional education" and I gave that up because with a full time career and a wife I just do not have time to waste taking two classes per week on a set schedule for 3 hours per night. I am now able to take 4 classes per semester because I can turn in my assignments at 2am or on a Sunday or a Tuesday, it just doesn’t matter. The assignments I have to complete are the same, just submitted electronically instead of in person in hard copy form.
As it was said earlier, your degree does not say Bachelors of Science from an Online institution in Aeronautics etc..and your transcripts will not say *note: these classes were completed online and not in a traditional classroom setting. Most major colleges which you have all heard of and have friends that attended traditionally also offer degrees through distance learning.
I assure you that If I have a degree which I earned from UVSC that I earned 100 percent through distance learning and someone else in the same interview has the same degree which took him 4 years of actual in classroom face time that he will have no educational advantage over me. As a matter of fact, they would never be able to tell which degree was earned in which manner. The same goes to a person who completes a degree in 2 years of backbreaking work over someone who takes 8 years to complete the same degree. The person who accomplished his goal in 2 years is no further ahead in an interview room than the person who took 8.
Just my thoughts because it gets old listening to this debate....work smarter not harder.
Or...if it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid!
Technically it is not even called an online degree, it is called "distance learning" and it is particularly convenient for those like me currently sitting overseas who are unable to continue their education in a traditional way.
Times are changing and so are the ways that people are doing things these days. I have around 28 credits of "traditional education" and I gave that up because with a full time career and a wife I just do not have time to waste taking two classes per week on a set schedule for 3 hours per night. I am now able to take 4 classes per semester because I can turn in my assignments at 2am or on a Sunday or a Tuesday, it just doesn’t matter. The assignments I have to complete are the same, just submitted electronically instead of in person in hard copy form.
As it was said earlier, your degree does not say Bachelors of Science from an Online institution in Aeronautics etc..and your transcripts will not say *note: these classes were completed online and not in a traditional classroom setting. Most major colleges which you have all heard of and have friends that attended traditionally also offer degrees through distance learning.
I assure you that If I have a degree which I earned from UVSC that I earned 100 percent through distance learning and someone else in the same interview has the same degree which took him 4 years of actual in classroom face time that he will have no educational advantage over me. As a matter of fact, they would never be able to tell which degree was earned in which manner. The same goes to a person who completes a degree in 2 years of backbreaking work over someone who takes 8 years to complete the same degree. The person who accomplished his goal in 2 years is no further ahead in an interview room than the person who took 8.
Just my thoughts because it gets old listening to this debate....work smarter not harder.
Or...if it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid!
08-04-2006, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
It is a very common misconception these days with the online degree.
Technically it is not even called an online degree, it is called "distance learning" and it is particularly convenient for those like me currently sitting overseas who are unable to continue their education in a traditional way.
Times are changing and so are the ways that people are doing things these days. I have around 28 credits of "traditional education" and I gave that up because with a full time career and a wife I just do not have time to waste taking two classes per week on a set schedule for 3 hours per night. I am now able to take 4 classes per semester because I can turn in my assignments at 2am or on a Sunday or a Tuesday, it just doesn’t matter. The assignments I have to complete are the same, just submitted electronically instead of in person in hard copy form.
As it was said earlier, your degree does not say Bachelors of Science from an Online institution in Aeronautics etc..and your transcripts will not say *note: these classes were completed online and not in a traditional classroom setting. Most major colleges which you have all heard of and have friends that attended traditionally also offer degrees through distance learning.
I assure you that If I have a degree which I earned from UVSC that I earned 100 percent through distance learning and someone else in the same interview has the same degree which took him 4 years of actual in classroom face time that he will have no educational advantage over me. As a matter of fact, they would never be able to tell which degree was earned in which manner. The same goes to a person who completes a degree in 2 years of backbreaking work over someone who takes 8 years to complete the same degree. The person who accomplished his goal in 2 years is no further ahead in an interview room than the person who took 8.
Just my thoughts because it gets old listening to this debate....work smarter not harder.
Or...if it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid!
Technically it is not even called an online degree, it is called "distance learning" and it is particularly convenient for those like me currently sitting overseas who are unable to continue their education in a traditional way.
Times are changing and so are the ways that people are doing things these days. I have around 28 credits of "traditional education" and I gave that up because with a full time career and a wife I just do not have time to waste taking two classes per week on a set schedule for 3 hours per night. I am now able to take 4 classes per semester because I can turn in my assignments at 2am or on a Sunday or a Tuesday, it just doesn’t matter. The assignments I have to complete are the same, just submitted electronically instead of in person in hard copy form.
As it was said earlier, your degree does not say Bachelors of Science from an Online institution in Aeronautics etc..and your transcripts will not say *note: these classes were completed online and not in a traditional classroom setting. Most major colleges which you have all heard of and have friends that attended traditionally also offer degrees through distance learning.
I assure you that If I have a degree which I earned from UVSC that I earned 100 percent through distance learning and someone else in the same interview has the same degree which took him 4 years of actual in classroom face time that he will have no educational advantage over me. As a matter of fact, they would never be able to tell which degree was earned in which manner. The same goes to a person who completes a degree in 2 years of backbreaking work over someone who takes 8 years to complete the same degree. The person who accomplished his goal in 2 years is no further ahead in an interview room than the person who took 8.
Just my thoughts because it gets old listening to this debate....work smarter not harder.
Or...if it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid!
08-04-2006, 04:11 PM
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There is a negative perception about online degrees, and the perception can become the reality if that perception is held by someone who is making decisions about YOUR future...
Distance learning has been around longer than online learning...it used to be a traditional class, often taught in the evening that was run like a video-teleconference. This had the advatnage of offering direct student/teacher interaction, and since the students were together in a given location they could interact inside and outside class.
The online or CBT student is isolated from the traditional social interactions...he may learn the materiel, but he is missing what is probably the more important aspect of the college experience: social, teamwork, and professional interactions. Personally, I would consider this when evaluating someone. I would however give folks like USMC-SGT full credit for teamwork skills learned in the military or another similar job setting.
It is true that if you get an online degree from a school with any kind of name recognition, no one should be able to tell the difference. But if you get one from a school that is does primarily online courses...folks are going to know that...
Distance learning has been around longer than online learning...it used to be a traditional class, often taught in the evening that was run like a video-teleconference. This had the advatnage of offering direct student/teacher interaction, and since the students were together in a given location they could interact inside and outside class.
The online or CBT student is isolated from the traditional social interactions...he may learn the materiel, but he is missing what is probably the more important aspect of the college experience: social, teamwork, and professional interactions. Personally, I would consider this when evaluating someone. I would however give folks like USMC-SGT full credit for teamwork skills learned in the military or another similar job setting.
It is true that if you get an online degree from a school with any kind of name recognition, no one should be able to tell the difference. But if you get one from a school that is does primarily online courses...folks are going to know that...
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