Best Place to get an ATP
06-04-2011, 06:05 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by chignutsak
Caltech PhD and this guy flies a crippled 747 around? Geesh he could do so much more with that degree and fly for fun with his riches.
I would guess he has some administrative position as well. The Navy had no end to the collateral duties assigned to most everyone. I think most services are the same with the exception of some Air Force positions.
I would guess the same holds true for this person. But that's just a guess. I base it on what an incredible waste those credentials would be if all this guy did was fly occasionally.
06-04-2011, 07:07 PM
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I did the 10 hour program and found it to be a perfect fit for me. It had been 8 years since I had flown anything GA. At the time I had 2900 TT with 1900 of that being in the CRJ.
All ATPs in Bowling Green will give you a total of 10 hours in the A/C including the checkride. They have a Frasca that is available for you to use nearly 24 hours a day and they don't charge you any extra to use it. You can use it as much as you would like. If you utilize the tools that they give you and don't expect anyone to hold your hand, you will do just fine.
All ATPs in Bowling Green will give you a total of 10 hours in the A/C including the checkride. They have a Frasca that is available for you to use nearly 24 hours a day and they don't charge you any extra to use it. You can use it as much as you would like. If you utilize the tools that they give you and don't expect anyone to hold your hand, you will do just fine.
06-04-2011, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CrustyFE
He flew KC-135's, U2, B1B, and maybe one other airframe. Not in that order. I don't think he had been in GA for his entire 22 years, but I don't remember.
The Air Force pilot was applying to FedEx and was busy trying to work that connection. I offered free extra training to him to help him with the GPS simulator. That was his weak spot. He refused the extra training.
He was also weak on VOR knowledge to the point that he wasn't sure what a VOR was. I found this a little confusing since I flew in the Navy for twenty years as a C-130 and B707 flight engineer and I knew what a VOR was. He was familiar with TACAN's so I had to explain the similarities to a VOR and DME. I didn't understand why his VOR knowledge was weak. As far as I know the Air Force uses VOR's like everyone else, but I could be wrong. I didn't ask why he didn't know about VOR's.
His experience and prior training carried him through.
The more training my students did before showing up at the school, the better they performed. But it also helped to know exactly what to train for which is why I worked with the DPE when I set up the course.
The Air Force pilot was applying to FedEx and was busy trying to work that connection. I offered free extra training to him to help him with the GPS simulator. That was his weak spot. He refused the extra training.
He was also weak on VOR knowledge to the point that he wasn't sure what a VOR was. I found this a little confusing since I flew in the Navy for twenty years as a C-130 and B707 flight engineer and I knew what a VOR was. He was familiar with TACAN's so I had to explain the similarities to a VOR and DME. I didn't understand why his VOR knowledge was weak. As far as I know the Air Force uses VOR's like everyone else, but I could be wrong. I didn't ask why he didn't know about VOR's.
His experience and prior training carried him through.
The more training my students did before showing up at the school, the better they performed. But it also helped to know exactly what to train for which is why I worked with the DPE when I set up the course.
You are correct about the NASA guy flying the 747. I don't know the one that Cub is talking about, but another one is a friend of mine. He has MANY other duties, in a few different aircraft even, to go along with the 747 flying.
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06-04-2011, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Navy C-130s (or many of the aircraft other than tactical pointy nosed types) often seem to have a good grasp of the some of the finer GA points. I flew in the USMC for 20 years too and after I had stopped flying GA, I hadn't seen a VOR, ILS, or NDB for nearly all of those 20 years. I mentioned before that since my time in the military GPS approaches have become standard and the cockpit of those GA planes have certainly evolved too. Getting back into 'civvie' flying as been a challenging situation.
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Most of our Hercs were mission birds but we had two cargo KC-130's that we swapped with you guys for the Blue Angles squadron. It was 148893 and 148892. I think there was one more we got from the Blue Angels but I forgot the number. Thirty years ago and I still remember the buno numbers, but I forgot my iPhone power supply at an overnight last month.
Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
You are correct about the NASA guy flying the 747. I don't know the one that Cub is talking about, but another one is a friend of mine. He has MANY other duties, in a few different aircraft even, to go along with the 747 flying.
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06-05-2011, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by thndr8
I'm the guy that kicks off the autopilot and flight director above 10,000 ft and flys raw data in an RJ to landing and I still had trouble with that damn Seminole. Just FYI.
06-06-2011, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by thndr8
Not to mention, an airplane that will not trim out straight and level ever.
I thought the same thing about the Seminole until the flight home from my multi-comm check ride. It was rock solid, straight and level, all the way home.
(sorry, no real contribution to the thread.)
06-10-2011, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CrustyFE
Most of our Hercs were mission birds but we had two cargo KC-130's that we swapped with you guys for the Blue Angles squadron. It was 148893 and 148892. I think there was one more we got from the Blue Angels but I forgot the number.
Were you in VQ-4?
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