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Old 06-26-2011, 12:08 PM
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This isnt an ad, but more of a question for those looking for block multi time.

A guy I know near DFW has an Apache he is renting out for $175/hour, the only kicker is that for insurance he has to be sitting right seat. It is cleaned up inside and out, and he has had some people come out to take a look at the plane...but alas no customers. They all wind up at ATP, AF, or some other flight school who charges well over his current going price for the same generic twin piston time.

So the question posed is what multi time builders are looking for, considering time is time, and the less money spent the more time can be purchased or saved for other activities.
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How much does he charge to sit in the right seat? And, I don't know, is he a easygoing person who you wouldn't mind riding on your flights?
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I wouldn't pay $175 an hour to have somebody else sit right seat and no doubt log his own PIC time while I pay for it.
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I paid $100 an hr wet in an Apache last month.
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I paid $100 an hr wet in an Apache last month.
What do they burn? 17 - 18 gph? $100 wouldn't even cover fuel here now, let alone a month ago when it was another 30 or 40 cents higher lol.
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How much does he charge to sit in the right seat? And, I don't know, is he a easygoing person who you wouldn't mind riding on your flights?
Nada. He knows you're there for the time, its merely an insurance thing.

And as far as easy going...I would say most definitely.

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I wouldn't pay $175 an hour to have somebody else sit right seat and no doubt log his own PIC time while I pay for it.
Fair enough. But considering that you are logging multi PIC (the end goal of all this for the customer) and he is there trying to run his business, is it a mental thing, a way the logbook would look, or just a personal preference of someone else monitoring you in an aircraft?
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Most people are looking to split the costs with someone, not foot the entire hourly rate themselves--even at $175/hr.
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$175 is a decent wet rental price, although after successfully completing a checkout, a rated pilot should expect to able to rent the aircraft - alone. The ride-along clause would be a show stopper for sure.
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Fair enough. But considering that you are logging multi PIC (the end goal of all this for the customer) and he is there trying to run his business, is it a mental thing, a way the logbook would look, or just a personal preference of someone else monitoring you in an aircraft?
Your logbook would look fine, and I don't have a problem with someone else 'monitoring' me (I fly all the time with other pilots in my Saratoga, I don't mind in the slightest).

I just find it very hard to believe that this guy is going to let people fly his Apache for $175 an hour without getting something out of it himself. As an aircraft owner in the DFW metroplex, I think $175 an hour wouldn't be a real big profit considering fuel and maintenance expenses around here.

I wouldn't let people just randomly rent my Saratoga for slightly more than it costs me an hour to own it, just because I can. Let friends borrow it? Sure. But I don't see a lot of reason for him to do this unless he's logging the time or just really really nice to people wanting multi PIC.

But maybe I'm just a pessimist?
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beats the $225 I pay for a 79 beat to shi* seminole.....Not to mention some right seat support, why not?
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