Sliceback

^^^ that's my niece! ^^^ or it sure looks like her! Seriously. LOL.


In H.S.? Get flying yesterday. You could enter college as a CFI. Work college around your flying schedule. You could be working as a pilot while in college. IMO pursue flying more than the college degree. Don't misunderstand me, you need a 4 yr degree. I'd recommend a warm place, like PHX(flight training academies), with lots of women(very important for the survival of the species!).

With hard work you could be flying, earning money and gaining time/experience, while in college. Take courses year round. That means you could enter college with community college credits and AP credits. Daughter took 11 AP courses and tested out of 36 credits. Take summer courses. Get a degree that you're interested in and that would be a backup plan or a side job/interest. With advanced credits, JC courses, year round courses, and flying, you could be in the job market at 20/21 yrs old and looking at applying for majors. Guys have gotten hired at major airlines at 21 or 22 yrs old doing the college in 2.5-3 yr program and getting their CFI/MEL before, or in, college.

Dad works for Boeing? See if you can get sim time or work in the sims. You'll push your experience level faster and further.

Good luck.

USMCFLYR

Not with the new rule coming out correct?
Will have to be 23 minimum to have that ATP.

Snarge

Who cares about your GPA unless it can get you a scholarship... cut the cord to daddy.... go to a non aviation school.... get a non flying degree... fly during the summer and work on ratings... when you graduate, with or without 1500h get a biz jet or B737 type rating.... then go to Alaska or PR preferred.... fly, fly fly and date as many girls as possible... if you go to ERAU you are just another link in the Jimmy Dean sausage factory....

SkyMall

Duckdude is right. Make sure you can get a first class medical before you invest a dollar in flying lessons. Also, go to an AME that does nothing but professional medicals if you can. Tons of doctors can issue a medical, but only the high volume aviation docs will be knowledgeable enough to get your condition properly documented BEFORE they send your paperwork to Oak City, and that's important.

Next, if you wanna fly, fly. I did two years as an anthropology major at a home town state school and while I found it interesting, I had no intention of ever being an anthropologist so I had to ask myself, "Is this helping me achieve my goal?" I transferred to an in-state school with an aviation program and got a BS in Aerospace, but I didn't have the money to take flight lessons so I got a job, saved my money, and then got all my rating a year or so later at a title mom n' pop flight school (which I then managed for two years). I've got a little bit of student loan debt but the payment is very manageable and not at all a burden on my budget.

If you want my opinion, find an instate school with an aviation program that has an aerospace majors OTHER than pro-pilot and major in one of them. Dispatch, ATC, maintenance, something like that. Network like crazy. I got laid off from my 135 gig right before Christmas and the first person who offered me an opportunity was an old friend from college I hadn't seen in years.

If you're a junior now, try to get to college with your commercial already done. Most schools I've experienced generally wont let you instruct as a student unless you got your CFI there. Try to do that your first semester and leave school with 1500+ dual given. You'll probably graduate before you're old enough to work for an airline, but you'll be competitive for a 135 gig or some random 91 job. They're out there.

Good luck buddy!

Sliceback

ATP not required for hiring minimums. Sometimes, but not always. Regardless if 23 is the age minimum he could have 2-3 thousand more hours by then.

USMCFLYR

I know an ATP isn't required NOW, but I thought that was a part of the new rules. So by the time this poster is out of high school and has implemented your plan - there is no way he is going to be getting a P121 job at 20/21 years old.

You are correct though - if he executed your plan, by the time he is ready for P121 hiring based on age alone he would have much more experience.

SkyMall - Oak City = Ok City

hawgdriver

Don't go to a school for their Aviation program. I attended Southern Illinois University and was lucky enough to get told to go to the local FBO to get my ratings because their program at the time had no openings. A lot of my friends were in the schools program. It took me 1.5 years to get ALL my ratings to include CFII and MEI. To do this same thing at SIU it takes nearly 4 years to get the same ratings. I was building time while flight instructing the last two years of school. Bottom line is go to a normal school and get a good degree and get your ratings at an FBO

Sliceback

USMCflyer - just checked. Regs require an ATP. Years ago you could get your ATP but couldn't exercise the privileges until you turned 23.

New standard would allow 21 yrs old w/1,000 hrs if you came from an acredited school. Hasn't passed yet. If it was my son I'd recommend going that route in case it does pass. That way he'd be able to start 121 flying on his 21st birthday.

Seniority, and getting it at the youngest age possible, is everything.


Restricted ATP -

Be at least 21 years old, hold a commercial pilot certificate with instrument rating, successfully complete a new ATP Certification Training Program, pass ATP knowledge and practical tests, and for military pilots, have a minimum of 750 hours total time as a pilot, or for a graduate of an aviation degree program, have a minimum of 1,000 hours total time as a pilot.

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic...0-AJ67NPRM.pdf