Stalls during turns
08-08-2013 | 05:58 PM
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+1. If you spend your time looking at the ball instead of outside. You're not really getting the necessary cues. Turning stalls are the only time I allow students to even glance at the ball.
08-08-2013 | 07:10 PM
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Used to teach the approach turn stall to Navy students in the Turbo Weenie. The way we taught the recovery is:
Max, relax, level, ball
It is all done simultaneously.
Max power
Relax back stick pressure (don't bury the nose)
Level the wings
Center the ball
The idea is to reduce the aoa as much as possible as quickly as possible.
Max, relax, level, ball
It is all done simultaneously.
Max power
Relax back stick pressure (don't bury the nose)
Level the wings
Center the ball
The idea is to reduce the aoa as much as possible as quickly as possible.
08-08-2013 | 07:14 PM
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BFR is not an evaluation...it's a tool to keep you proficient/cognizant in things you do not do on a regular basis. Look at it as a learning experience and not a pass/fail. My 121 job we do turning stalls in the 767...same principles as mentioned above. Remember to have fun!!
08-08-2013 | 09:51 PM
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Used to teach the approach turn stall to Navy students in the Turbo Weenie. The way we taught the recovery is:
Max, relax, level, ball
It is all done simultaneously.
Max power
Relax back stick pressure (don't bury the nose)
Level the wings
Center the ball
The idea is to reduce the aoa as much as possible as quickly as possible.
Max, relax, level, ball
It is all done simultaneously.
Max power
Relax back stick pressure (don't bury the nose)
Level the wings
Center the ball
The idea is to reduce the aoa as much as possible as quickly as possible.
08-25-2013 | 05:18 AM
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Follow up
Had the BFR yesterday. The turning stalls were a non-event - thanks to your replies and the CFI's demeanor - and the 172 is pretty docile.
turns out the CFI flew Helos for awhile, then was XO at two training squadrons: VT-2 and one I can't remember flying the T2 and T6. Very laid back training style: "Hey, I think I smell something electrical burning, what should we do"?
Flight started with a simulated engine failure during departure after turning crosswind. Made a beeline for the runway and landed opposite direction, then out to the practice area for the steep turn, slow/stall (with turns) series and then some unusual attitudes at my request. Shot the localizer into the home field, then 3 more t/gos with varying flap settings.
Great flight.
turns out the CFI flew Helos for awhile, then was XO at two training squadrons: VT-2 and one I can't remember flying the T2 and T6. Very laid back training style: "Hey, I think I smell something electrical burning, what should we do"?
Flight started with a simulated engine failure during departure after turning crosswind. Made a beeline for the runway and landed opposite direction, then out to the practice area for the steep turn, slow/stall (with turns) series and then some unusual attitudes at my request. Shot the localizer into the home field, then 3 more t/gos with varying flap settings.
Great flight.
08-25-2013 | 07:38 AM
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Had the BFR yesterday. The turning stalls were a non-event - thanks to your replies and the CFI's demeanor - and the 172 is pretty docile.
turns out the CFI flew Helos for awhile, then was XO at two training squadrons: VT-2 and one I can't remember flying the T2 and T6. Very laid back training style: "Hey, I think I smell something electrical burning, what should we do"?
Flight started with a simulated engine failure during departure after turning crosswind. Made a beeline for the runway and landed opposite direction, then out to the practice area for the steep turn, slow/stall (with turns) series and then some unusual attitudes at my request. Shot the localizer into the home field, then 3 more t/gos with varying flap settings.
Great flight.
turns out the CFI flew Helos for awhile, then was XO at two training squadrons: VT-2 and one I can't remember flying the T2 and T6. Very laid back training style: "Hey, I think I smell something electrical burning, what should we do"?
Flight started with a simulated engine failure during departure after turning crosswind. Made a beeline for the runway and landed opposite direction, then out to the practice area for the steep turn, slow/stall (with turns) series and then some unusual attitudes at my request. Shot the localizer into the home field, then 3 more t/gos with varying flap settings.
Great flight.
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