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Old 01-24-2014, 06:23 PM
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So we need 10 hours of simulator, including 6 hours Level C or higher. And this must be done before taking the written exam, correct?

Any idea how expensive this is?
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Oops, I just found the answer myself. There is no answer! The FAA has still not defined this new ATP program.

"Pilots pursuing an ATP certificate after July 31, 2014, in addition to having 1,500 hours, will have to complete a new, yet-to-be developed, ATP certification training program." - AOPA

Any idea when this new ATP certification training program will be completed and published?
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I am not sure if you are talking about requirements outside of the United States, but the FAA requirements begin in the FARs in 61.151. For the FAA ATP, you can take the written at any time. There are no prerequisites for the ATP written exam. You can take it with zero experience and no instructor endorsement. The written test results are only good for 2 years though, and any missed areas are fair game on the oral exam.
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I'll ask some friends at the FAA and get back to you.
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Originally Posted by proskuneho View Post
I am not sure if you are talking about requirements outside of the United States, but the FAA requirements begin in the FARs in 61.151. For the FAA ATP, you can take the written at any time. There are no prerequisites for the ATP written exam. You can take it with zero experience and no instructor endorsement. The written test results are only good for 2 years though, and any missed areas are fair game on the oral exam.
Once the rule is imposed you have to do the ground school before attempting the written exam. At least that is what i was told by several simuflite instructors who are scrambling to make themselves eligible to administer the new ATP standards. I could be wrong though.
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Originally Posted by dl773 View Post
Any idea when this new ATP certification training program will be completed and published?
July 31, 2014


several simuflite instructors who are scrambling to make themselves eligible to administer the new ATP standards.
It's going to take getting out of the school house and being PIC in a fractional or 135 operation for 2 years. Which is going to be hard to do in 6 months if they don't already have some time in.

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Read AC 61-138. It explains everything.
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15. FSTD TRAINING TOPICS. As stated in § 61.156(b), the ATP CTP must include at least ten hours of training in an FSTD, qualified under 14 CFR part 60. Of the ten required hours, at least six hours of training must be completed in a full flight simulator (FFS), Level C or higher. Up to four hours of training may be accomplished in a Level 4 or higher FTD

http://www.nata.aero/data/files/gia/.../ac_61-138.pdf
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