Running out of time for the ATP written!
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The training will have to be provided on a continous basis without exception. With this many pilots required, it may be to the regional's advantage to provide the training.
I am really hoping that people wise up and don't pay for what should be required as a condition before a pilot may fly the line rather than conditional for employment.
If the training is so important, and I believe it is, then it should be required as part of the regional's training program.
I am really hoping that people wise up and don't pay for what should be required as a condition before a pilot may fly the line rather than conditional for employment.
If the training is so important, and I believe it is, then it should be required as part of the regional's training program.
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Sure
Regionals failing will mean years of pilots on the streets...no?
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I've been out of this loop for a long time so forgive my ignorance, but regionals have to provide full types to new hires anyway. Why would including the ATP be a big deal? At least back in my day, the ATP and an initial type ride was essentially the same thing. I don't remember spending any extra time in the sim, at least. Has that all changed?
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not sure ofit. but its likely. there are always pilots on the streets. if you want to see pilots on the streets wait til the economy collapses.
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I've been out of this loop for a long time so forgive my ignorance, but regionals have to provide full types to new hires anyway. Why would including the ATP be a big deal? At least back in my day, the ATP and an initial type ride was essentially the same thing. I don't remember spending any extra time in the sim, at least. Has that all changed?
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IMHO, the law was written with a quality new-hire training process in mind. The lawmakers envisioned airlines following suit and getting their new-hire class certified as an ATP-CTP. However, there are still 24 months to go before the last of the pilots who took their ATP written before the deadline will need a new test. The airlines aren't feeling the full pressure of this new law yet. I think they eventually will feel that pressure and most will make their new-hire program ATP-CTP capable.
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IMHO, the law was written with a quality new-hire training process in mind. The lawmakers envisioned airlines following suit and getting their new-hire class certified as an ATP-CTP. However, there are still 24 months to go before the last of the pilots who took their ATP written before the deadline will need a new test. The airlines aren't feeling the full pressure of this new law yet. I think they eventually will feel that pressure and most will make their new-hire program ATP-CTP capable.
#20
No, the FAA put a use by date on the old expired tests and started over again on August 1 if you want an ATP-ME. If all you want is a SE or Helo rating you're still good to go. See 61.39(b) and (c).
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