CH-47Driver

I guess UConnQB14 probably said it best in his post.....granted the price difference between a local FBO and the big UNIV programs is something one cannot ignore. I guess if you have the money why not....If you don't then at least you have the cheaper option.......that from what I read in this forum allows you thesame job opportunities. There is something for everyone .

At least we can agree on one thing, that being that we love aviation enough to comunicate like this in this forum

POPA

You've absolutely got to be kidding me.

ToiletDuck

My school has a horrible athletics program aside from baseball and track yet everyone knows them. I've never heard of ERAU anywhere ever.

Uncle Bose

Well of course. Baylor is NCAA Big 12. NAIA = 3rd rate teams from little, irrelevant schools no one's heard of.

CaptainMark

MY JOB=BIGGEST AND BEST Your job=3rd rate little irrelevant commuter noone's ever heard of.

ToiletDuck

And you wonder why people don't like ERAU?


Captain Mark makes me think of that joke

Q:How do you know when you meet a pilot
A:He'll tell you

LAfrequentflyer

W2 comparisons???

-LAFF

UConnQB14

yea... i obviously did a lot of work before i started going formally.. lots of studying on my own beforehand so that i knew about the airplane.. knew a guy with a warrior that would let me come with him just to get on the radio, basic turns, etc... the real basics

when i actually enrolled into the flight school, i had a lot of stuff under my belt and flew for 3-4 hours a day

CaptainMark

yeah..that's it...he can bash my school..i can't bash his job?...u need to quiet down a little...over 1300 posts in less than 2 years..get a life..and if i'm not mistaken u should be getting some dual somewhere...i think tony c gave u a lesson..did u study?
HOMEWORK: Study "Stable Approach"


http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/showthread.php?t=9439

sargeanb

I'm going to reach into the archives for this one...(from a post long ago)...

I'm a CFI here at ERAU, and I couldn't agree with you more on that subject. I was just up with an instrument student the other day, transitioning to a VOR approach, and the first thing he does is starts turning knobs on the GPS, wasting valuable time. Now the plan is to eventually convert the majority of our fleet to G1000 equipped aircraft, and I think this is not a good idea. Like you said, especially if students get into cargo flying at the next level, they will not see much glass at all. The GPS is usually the first thing we fail when testing out nav skills. Learning advanced avionics is useful, but primary training should definitely remain with the old style gauges.

Not to get off topic...here are some costs dug up from my old students. This is the standard rating progression here:
FA132 (initial to Solo XCs) $7000
FA133S (PVT ASEL completion) $5000
FA133M (PVT AMEL) $8500
FA232 (Inst Multi): $12000
FA272 (Comm AMEL):$6800
FA273 (optional C-ASEL): $3500
FA417 (optional CFI/II): $8000
CRJ Ground school/sim course (optional): $3500
Grand total: $54300, spread out over 3-4 years.

I don't know exactly what students are coming out with timewise, but I'm guessing around 200-250 total with 80-100 multi time, and 24 hrs in the CRJ sim if they opt to do that. These are the REAL numbers straight off my records....I even rounded up a bit since these were my sharper students.
Compare this to:
ATP Airline program: $53990
Regional Airline Academy: $60000
Local FBO: 39000 (no turbine training)
Other FBO: 37000 (no turbine training)

So what students get out of these programs is a bit different for each school, but the costs for the "airline prep" schools is about equal. Our flight costs are less than FBOs in the local area with comparable equipment, particularly multi-engine aircraft (most FBO multis around here are down for mtx 1/2 the time). Keep in mind too that we are a university, so Aero Sci students are getting alot of specific classroom training on alot of things they will see in the future outside of our flight department, but the costs for tuition, etc. are not included here.

There is alot of dislike towards us out there, but the current generation of CFI's and students, for the most part, are trying to dispell the "cocky" attitude alot of pilots think we have...and yes, I have 40G in loans to pay back too, which after consolidation comes to about 200 bucks a month...not too bad AFTER the 1st year at a regional. However, the University is paying for my MBA now as an employee, which is a more useful degree should the pilot job market cease up once again. I had fun during my time as a student here, and still do...it is what you make of it.

-Sargeanb