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Old 02-25-2007, 08:37 AM
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I guess you haven't been there in awhile. The AirNet and ASA bridge programs are long gone, and aero sci majors who walk into the career resource center are met with blank stares. The center is geared towards the business and engineering majors, whose degrees have actual market value.

But you didn't fly at ERAU or do the worthless aero sci program. Got a management degree. Good for you. Now quit recommending the former.

EDIT: I see the semiliterate CaptainMark has taken another snipe at me. Apparently he's having trouble comprehending the argument I'm making.

I'm not blaming ERAU for not having an airline job. What I am blaming them for is the marketing propaganda they put forth (already explained by rickair and de727). And then they charge $101K for their worthless aero sci degree.

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Old 02-25-2007, 08:53 AM
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waaaa....where in the original post does he specify air science...he asked why everyone is always whining about erau...and i am 100% correct...u didn't get your major job right out of school...what if u got MY job out of school and connections at ERAU helped get u there...that 25 grand wouldn't be a topic then would it?...the school is fine...you left the school with the certificates and ratings u were promised..the rest is up to you...so if u want to blame ERAU for the rest of your career...go ahead....but i enjoyed my time there...had fun ...learned a little...and looking forward to my 50 hr layover in SAN this week...

semiliterate huh?...you stated riddle fed u a bunch of propaganda about a lucrative airline career after graduation...i got one...so i guess u r blaming them for no airline job...man u r all over the place

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Old 02-25-2007, 09:03 AM
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You know full well your situation is in the extreme minority (probably hasn't happened in years, or else the main page of their website would most likely have a story about it), yet you praise ERAU based upon it. That makes no sense. You need to evaluate ERAU based on the opportunities most people leave there with.

I never expected a major job right out of school. I only attended there for 3 semesters, after having done most of the work at a community college, paying $11 a unit. I got out of there relatively unscathed.

Now read very carefully this time. I don't want to have to repeat it again:

ERAU's marketing propaganda would have you believe their aero sci program (yes, SPECIFICALLY their aero sci program) is THE best way to get into a pilot career. Many high school kids not knowing any better drink the Kool-Aid, and sign on the dotted line for a $100K+ loan, all for a degree that has no value. As others have already said here, ERAU is ripping them off. That's what I'm blaming them for.
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:11 AM
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ch-47driver...they can say whatever they want about propaganda..blah..blah..blah...but they r mad because they think they were promised some lucrative airline job after school and didn't get it(look at their posts)...that's why people hate on ERAU...to answer your question again...we have hundreds of erau grads over here at FDX...
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:40 AM
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Wow fellas I guess I really didn't know how sensitive of a subject this was......maybe if used that search function I would have know ...huh.. Anyways it wasn't my intentions to provoke anyone but I must say that I think it's interesting to hear everyones opinion on this one which there are many out there.

CaptMark quick ? In you opinoin how do you think employers (Majors & Regionals) react to that dreaded BA of Science in Pro Aero from ERAU?<---which is what I have

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Old 02-25-2007, 09:44 AM
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a lot of military guys i fly with have prof aero degrees...i'm sure it is lokked highly upon..especially that u did it while maintaining a fulltime army job..u will be fine..good luck
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Originally Posted by CH-47Driver View Post
Hey fellas I just have this question that is just bothering the heck out of me, that being why does everyone hate on ERAU? Ev'e heard that the guys coming out on there are stuck up and all kinds of other things. I graduated from ERAU while still serving in the ARMY and from what I gather the school took very good care of me. Then again I did not attend the campus, everything I did was at whatever military intallation I was stationed at.

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You don't need to worry about ERAU. You did it on active-duty and in many cases the selection of schools is limited. Expecially if you were overseas - like I was.

Its the kids that fall for the "Harvard of the Skies" BS and leave for a RJ job paying 30K 1st year with 100K+ in debt that need worry.

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Old 02-25-2007, 12:28 PM
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I went to the Prescott campus a few years ago, my freshman year. Other than the obvious facts such as a retirement town, a sausage school, extremely expensive and whatever opinion you hold about Arizona, I realized I made a bad decision about attending there during the spring semester. I wasn't impressed, not entirely happy, and was getting depressed. No it wasn’t homesickness; I had things to combat that such as some good friendships. The classes were well below my expectations, it felt like I was being fed with a spoon. Most of the instructors were okay, not great. The flying was okay as well, at least I got to look at some new scenery(wait a minute, what scenery? LOL). My flight instructor was a nut job, didn't like that guy at all. Had a meeting with the training manager to discuss my flight instructor, to my surprise he was a prick as well. The whole idea as pay as you go kind of sucks. The school expects that you fly on certain days whether you have money or not. Their no show policy is BS. You almost had to have a lawyer to prove why you no showed for your own well being like being sick. Airplanes were nice new 172's which I liked. I did learn a few things that I still use today in piloting and that’s about all I took with me from that school. Anyways back to where I admitted I made a mistake, during that spring I desperately searched for another college I could attend. My final decision....University of North Dakota, yes I know, a giant culture shock indeed especially with temperature. I chose that school primarily because it was a place where I could fly, I knew some people that currently attend there, and get a degree at a reasonable cost and best of all, its a public school with girls. So here I am still at UND, and liking it. To this date I'm in continued contact with my friends at ERAU, they're still there and my attempts to persuade them out of there have failed. So did I make a bad decision to leave? Absolutely not. Others that I knew also transferred out of there the same time I did. At least 25 others that I met on our first day also left that spring. I'm about to graduate here from UND, and my final cost of all these years equals about 2 1/2 years at ERAU.
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Old 02-25-2007, 03:18 PM
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It doesn't matter what type of degree you have. If you think that a furloughee who has no other professional experience other than flying aircraft for the past 10 years of his/her life is going to go out and land a job as an engineer or computer programmer because of his/her engineering or computer science degree or any other job you can think of, you're nuts. Companies hire recent grads for entry level positions and with no professional experience in the field at 30-35 years old, you're up $hits Creek without a paddle. If you think starting your own business with your business degree is going to be a cake walk also, smell the coffee. The odds are against you because most small businesses fail (not to mention the fact you better have a huge chunk of money in the bank to start this business). If getting the cheapest degree you can to limit your debt before getting into this risky business is your goal, I can't argue with that.

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In my short 2 years as a CFI, I encountered quite a few "nut job" students who thought they knew what was best for them, but the fact of the matter was, they didn't have a clue and in a formal flight training program, you were there to learn and with time contraints with getting students done, YOU SHOWED UP WHEN PUT ON THE SCHEDULE. You registered for a "flight block", am I correct? Which meant from M-F between the hours of say, 1000-1400, you had 4 hours of which were game for flight training. The school "expects" you to fly on certain days because that's what YOU registered for! Being that I made my schedule a day and a half out, unless a student specifically told me that he/she couldn't fly that day because they had a project to work on, a big test in Humanities class, a sorority shin-dig to get drunk at (yes, I've seen it all), I put their butts on the schedule and if they didn't show, they were no-showed. It was my job to provide instruction and get them course complete. Beside that, I didn't get paid if I wasn't with a student, so if a student stiffed me, he/she would pay for it. There was a formal appeal process for misunderstandings or specific situations as cause for the no-show, but ERAU was not Joe Dirt's FBO where you came and went as you pleased. Did your professors across the street honor a no-show to their lessons without a good reason? Probably not. If you were sick, there was a school health department, correct? Aside from situations where you were in between office hours, you could have gotten grounded with a note from the school nurse. When I was there as a student, flight courses were graded -A, B, C... and 60% of your grade was from your ground school tests and FAA written and guess what; you had to get an A, B, or C to pass or you retook the ground school and weren't allowed to start flying until you did so. There were no D's and F's or this new Pass/Fail stuff. If you no-showed for no legitimate reason, you went down 1 letter grade. 3 of them and you were out, free to start the course again next semester (and yes, you had to take the whole ground school again). How's that for a no-show policy? The school has softened up quite a bit in the last 12 years or so. I know too well how it was to have a student who wanted days off for this and that and trying to be nice, I gave them off, later to have them bite me in the arse at the end of the semester when they wanted to go home for the summer and weren't done with the course. Who's arse was in my manager's office explaining why this person wasn't done? Me of course. I know ERAU was no military flight school, but I think that being the formal program that it is, there should be a little more discepline required.

Not saying your CFI was not a "nut job" because I think we were all nut jobs for doing that job for $12 an hour

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Old 02-25-2007, 06:37 PM
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ERU lacks kegstands, beautiful women, sports teams
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