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Old 07-08-2017, 06:10 AM
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Okay now that we have you distracted with a massive campaign against foreign entities that you have no control over, let's go ahead and ink some deals with our alliance partners so that all future international growth will go to them
No one's distracted. Numerous threats on numerous fronts. You guys are giving ALPA way too much credit.

I say there Typhoon, 'Ow much time in 'Urry's?

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No one's distracted. Numerous threats on numerous fronts. You guys are giving ALPA way too much credit.

I say there Typhoon, 'Ow much time in 'Urry's?

https://youtu.be/Z9Ak1w4DwV8
I said that in relation to airline management getting ALPA to chase it's tail while they go off and codeshare away all future international growth. Even the membership seems oblivious. When DAL was pulling out of BKK I mentioned it to a couple of crews I ran across and they were not even aware.
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With all the outsourcing in the name of codesharing with foreign carriers to and from Euroland, Asia, and S.A., U.S. carriers will become the largest regional operators in the world. But what the heck... ALPA and it's membership will be OK with UAL, DAL, and AA will being feeders for the Oneworld, Skyteam, and Star Alliance carriers.
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With all the outsourcing in the name of codesharing with foreign carriers to and from Euroland, Asia, and S.A., U.S. carriers will become the largest regional operators in the world. But what the heck... ALPA and it's membership will be OK with UAL, DAL, and AA will being feeders for the Oneworld, Skyteam, and Star Alliance carriers.
All the more reason for Yankee pilots to join the likes of NIA?!?
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And yet another person with limited comprehension...

So, let's make this very simple so perhaps you might be able to comprehend: I do not live in the United States. I do not wish to move back to the United States. When I did live in the United States, I DID work for a major airline. So please, try again if you are going to attempt an insult, because you really have just insulted yourself. Unless of course you are proud of the fact that you struggle to obtain 2nd grade level reading comprehension.



Which Major did you work for?
You said in the past if I can recall you worked for Mesa,


PS I am Brazilian
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Which Major did you work for?
You said in the past if I can recall you worked for Mesa,


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Virgin America.

Also should be noted that prior to VX, I was at Compass when it was wholly owned by NWA/DAL. I was covered under the flow through agreement. If a legacy US airline was my ultimate goal, I certainly had it waiting for me. But as I wanted to be on the east side of the Atlantic, Delta was not all that tempting in the long run.
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As does any representative body, ALPA salutes many masters. More than a few of those bearing widely divergent agendas. Then consider getting results in a time where the scale for legislative progress is measured in microns. By comparison to other lobbies, how is ALPA-PAC respected financially? No idea but it's a safe bet they aren't knocking on doors packing the fattest wallet.

Welcome fellas & call me Buddy. VA lawmaker, servant of the people. Also something of a pragmatist you might say, so not especially put off by earmarks, insider whispering, larger than token campaign contributions, single issue voter blocks, defense contractors or multinational spenders. So Flags of Convenience Don't Fly Here just passed committee you say? Well done. 100% behind our pilots, I can tell you that. So what if the presumptuous cry babies making more than me working 12 days a month get all high-horsey from time to time? Hell, I'm almost jealous. But please, hearing aid's up full volume, sell me on H.R.2150-115.

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As does any representative body, ALPA salutes many masters. More than a few of those bearing widely divergent agendas. Then consider getting results in a time where the scale for legislative progress is measured in microns. By comparison to other lobbies, how is ALPA-PAC respected financially? No idea but it's a safe bet they aren't knocking on doors packing the fattest wallet.

Welcome fellas & call me Buddy. VA lawmaker, servant of the people. Also something of a pragmatist you might say, so not especially put off by earmarks, insider whispering, larger than token campaign contributions, single issue voter blocks, defense contractors or multinational spenders. So Flags of Convenience Don't Fly Here just passed committee you say? Well done. 100% behind our pilots, I can tell you that. So what if the presumptuous cry babies making more than me working 12 days a month get all high-horsey from time to time? Hell, I'm almost jealous. But please, hearing aid's up full volume, sell me on H.R.2150-115.

https://congress.gov/115/bills/hr215...15hr2150ih.pdf
The last provision:
‘‘(21) ‘flag of convenience carrier’ means a foreign air carrier that is established in a country other than the home country of its majority owner or owners in order to avoid regulations of the home country."

That will be a tall order to prove in many cases, especially when it comes to EU/EEA carriers certified by EASA. Again, arguing that NAI was established for the purpose of getting around Norwegian regulations is just plain silly. Norway is bound by EU labour laws because of its membership in the EEA and access to the European open market, and Norway is an EASA member state. Establishing in Ireland does not allow NAI to circumvent EU labour laws nor circumvent EASA regulations. It does, however, give significant tax advantages, and that is not prohibited by this proposed bill.
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The last provision:
...in order to avoid regulations of the home country.[/I][/B]"

Again, arguing that NAI was established for the purpose of getting around Norwegian regulations is just plain silly.

It does, however, give significant tax advantages, and that is not prohibited by this proposed bill.
Taxes are regulatory & enforceable code interpretations appear under CFR as do FARs. However Dude, seems we may have stumbled on a patch of common ground. The Bill language reads pretty ambiguous I agree. Overly discretionary as well. Of course, might as well be titled Spruce Goose Act for all the chance it's got climbing out of congressional ground effect.
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Taxes are regulatory & enforceable code interpretations appear under CFR as do FARs. However Dude, seems we may have stumbled on a patch of common ground. The Bill language reads pretty ambiguous I agree. Overly discretionary as well. Of course, might as well be titled Spruce Goose Act for all the chance it's got climbing out of congressional ground effect.
It is ambiguous. However it states that the bill is aimed towards labour standards and specifically references article 17 bis of the Open Skies Treaty. Arguing that tax regulations are intended to be covered under the bill would be a large stretch.
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