How Is India To Fly??
10-09-2008 | 07:01 PM
#21
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Tell those ignorant Continental Guys,that Hindus Cremate all week long and not just on Tuesdays.I am surprised they did not smell the burning flesh in Delhi but only in Mumbai,Continental does fly to Delhi on Tuesday.
Maybe they should tell their brilliant management to stop flying to India.
Maybe they should tell their brilliant management to stop flying to India.
10-11-2008 | 04:21 AM
#23
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From: whale wrangler
Fun times
Lets not forget about the missed approaches and runway incursions !
10-11-2008 | 02:50 PM
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[quote=A320 Pilot;476916]You guys need to educate yourself THAT IS THE REASON YOUR LEARNING TO FLY IN THE IN USA?about foreign cultures and show some respect to other cultures.
Keep in mind its a two way street.
If I remember correctly the USA is multicultural country!!! You are Indian flying legally in the US.
You are the one biting the hand that feeds you!!!!
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Apply to Kingfisher and get out!
Keep in mind its a two way street. If I remember correctly the USA is multicultural country!!! You are Indian flying legally in the US.
You are the one biting the hand that feeds you!!!!
[email protected]
Apply to Kingfisher and get out!
10-11-2008 | 03:15 PM
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[quote=jet320;477463]
A multicultural society prides itself in respect for different cultures and traditions - some comments in this thread imply otherwise. I do think flying in India is very difficult but there’s no reason to throw in racist or at least demeaning undertones into this debate.
At least that’s my view.
You guys need to educate yourself THAT IS THE REASON YOUR LEARNING TO FLY IN THE IN USA?about foreign cultures and show some respect to other cultures.Keep in mind its a two way street.
If I remember correctly the USA is multicultural country!!! You are Indian flying legally in the US.
You are the one biting the hand that feeds you!!!!
[email protected]
Apply to Kingfisher and get out!
Keep in mind its a two way street. If I remember correctly the USA is multicultural country!!! You are Indian flying legally in the US.
You are the one biting the hand that feeds you!!!!
[email protected]
Apply to Kingfisher and get out!
At least that’s my view.
Last edited by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE; 10-11-2008 at 03:35 PM.
10-11-2008 | 06:46 PM
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[quote=⌐ AV8OR WANNABE;477477]
I fully agree with you and thanks for your support.
A multicultural society prides itself in respect for different cultures and traditions - some comments in this thread imply otherwise. I do think flying in India is very difficult but there’s no reason to throw in racist or at least demeaning undertones into this debate.
At least that’s my view.
At least that’s my view.
Last edited by A320 Pilot; 10-11-2008 at 07:11 PM.
10-11-2008 | 07:10 PM
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[quote=jet320;477463]
The only difference between you and me is that you or your ancestors showed up illegaly and I came here through legal channels a little later,so you are in no position to tell me what to do.
Now leave this forum and you get out and go back to where ever you came from
You guys need to educate yourself THAT IS THE REASON YOUR LEARNING TO FLY IN THE IN USA?about foreign cultures and show some respect to other cultures.Keep in mind its a two way street.
If I remember correctly the USA is multicultural country!!! You are Indian flying legally in the US.
You are the one biting the hand that feeds you!!!!
[email protected]
Apply to Kingfisher and get out!
Keep in mind its a two way street. If I remember correctly the USA is multicultural country!!! You are Indian flying legally in the US.
You are the one biting the hand that feeds you!!!!
[email protected]
Apply to Kingfisher and get out!
Now leave this forum and you get out and go back to where ever you came from
10-11-2008 | 07:49 PM
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I have trained several students from India. Like any culture, there are both good and bad representatives. 
Some of them I will always consider friends. Some of them are great pilots. Some of them were not motivated. I doubt those ones will ever be hired.
Some of them I will always consider friends. Some of them are great pilots. Some of them were not motivated. I doubt those ones will ever be hired.
10-11-2008 | 09:32 PM
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The only difference between you and me is that you or your ancestors showed up illegaly and I came here through legal channels a little later,so you are in no position to tell me what to do.
Now leave this forum and you get out and go back to where ever you came from
I sort of see your point in what you're trying to say however remember that Ellis Island, etc were legal means of getting here as at the time the US government actively promoted legal immigration to the US and even offered land deeds for some of the newcomers.
It’s a totally different scenario today where the government simply allows a ‘hands-off’ approach to the illegal immigration. In other words those laborers are illegal from day one however both sides of the political equation ignore that fact. One side is hoping to gain votes through either illegal voting or once they gain amnesty and eventually become citizens. The other side of the equation simply looks for cheap labor.
Both sides are selfish and disregard what's best for the country in order to promote their own causes.
That's a totally different discussion though...
Ps. Thanks for your earlier reply.
Now leave this forum and you get out and go back to where ever you came from
I sort of see your point in what you're trying to say however remember that Ellis Island, etc were legal means of getting here as at the time the US government actively promoted legal immigration to the US and even offered land deeds for some of the newcomers.
It’s a totally different scenario today where the government simply allows a ‘hands-off’ approach to the illegal immigration. In other words those laborers are illegal from day one however both sides of the political equation ignore that fact. One side is hoping to gain votes through either illegal voting or once they gain amnesty and eventually become citizens. The other side of the equation simply looks for cheap labor.
Both sides are selfish and disregard what's best for the country in order to promote their own causes.
That's a totally different discussion though...
Ps. Thanks for your earlier reply.
10-12-2008 | 07:46 AM
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Well, flying experience in India is very/extremely bad! (For Starters)
Like some dude mentioned, people keep steppin' on each other (Very Freakin' True)
The controller keeps asking you your "DME" from the XYZ fix, Freaking Constantly! (Like its timed with each breath he/she takes)
Since, English is not their "Native Lingo" but the for some reason are considered or classified as "Native Speakers" is "Horrendous"
They for some reason also have a habit of vectoring you in the "Eye of a Thunderstorm"
They definitely for sure throw in, For Example, "You are 20 Track Miles" from touch down. (I already know how many track miles I am, bud)
Also in their part of the World they are not "Familiar" with "phonetically" telling you which fix to proceed or go direct to. They just mumble something & expect folks, not familiar with it, to just proceed to it. (By Correctly Guessing, I guess)
Frequencies tend to get pretty congested cuz people tend to talk a lot. (Cuz of Language issues)
You only get your Departure Clearance when you are taxing to the active R/Wy or busy doing your "Before T/O Checklist" & they (ATC) very conveniently rattle off a bunch of stuff w/o askin', if you ready to copy!
Also when you ask for "Push & Start" Clearance you have to mention "number of Pax on board & THROUGH SECURITY" Honestly, I don't know if they went thru security cuz I never saw 'em go thru. But, apparently, if you don't say it to be "legally correct" ATC insists on you saying "Thru Security"
Another "terminology" you will hear, quite frequently, in that region (& Middle East) is "Charlie Charlie" its their way of saying/acknowledging "Roger or Affirmative". ( I never use it)
All in all, its not a pleasant experience! (Over all)
Hope this helps!
Good Luck Bud!
Fly safe y'all!
Like some dude mentioned, people keep steppin' on each other (Very Freakin' True)
The controller keeps asking you your "DME" from the XYZ fix, Freaking Constantly! (Like its timed with each breath he/she takes)
Since, English is not their "Native Lingo" but the for some reason are considered or classified as "Native Speakers" is "Horrendous"
They for some reason also have a habit of vectoring you in the "Eye of a Thunderstorm"
They definitely for sure throw in, For Example, "You are 20 Track Miles" from touch down. (I already know how many track miles I am, bud)
Also in their part of the World they are not "Familiar" with "phonetically" telling you which fix to proceed or go direct to. They just mumble something & expect folks, not familiar with it, to just proceed to it. (By Correctly Guessing, I guess)
Frequencies tend to get pretty congested cuz people tend to talk a lot. (Cuz of Language issues)
You only get your Departure Clearance when you are taxing to the active R/Wy or busy doing your "Before T/O Checklist" & they (ATC) very conveniently rattle off a bunch of stuff w/o askin', if you ready to copy!
Also when you ask for "Push & Start" Clearance you have to mention "number of Pax on board & THROUGH SECURITY" Honestly, I don't know if they went thru security cuz I never saw 'em go thru. But, apparently, if you don't say it to be "legally correct" ATC insists on you saying "Thru Security"
Another "terminology" you will hear, quite frequently, in that region (& Middle East) is "Charlie Charlie" its their way of saying/acknowledging "Roger or Affirmative". ( I never use it)
All in all, its not a pleasant experience! (Over all)
Hope this helps!
Good Luck Bud!
Fly safe y'all!
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