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Old 03-19-2018, 07:01 AM
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A look at pay around the industry:


1st Year FO:
Flexjet: $309 (PBS). @ 182 days/yr = $56238
Netjets: $343 (7/7 & Crew Choice 60) @ 182 days/year = $62,563 +11.2%
Envoy: $38/hr ≈ $38,000/yr + $22,100 signing bonus = $60,100 +6.8%
GoJets: $37/hr ≈ $37,000/yr + $26,000 signing bonus = $63,000 +12%
Endeavor: $50/hr ≈ $50,000/yr + $10,000 singing bonus = $60,000 +6.7%
Mesa: $36/hr ≈ $36,0000/yr + $22,500 signing bonus = $58500 +4.0%
Allegiant: $55/hr ≈ $55,000/yr
XoJet: $264/day (8 on/6 off) = $55,000/yr (more days worked per year)
WheelsUP: $268 (8on/6off) = $55,900 (more days worked per year)



5th year FO:
Flexjet: $371 (PBS) @ 182 days/yr = $67,522
Netjets: $419 (7/7 & Crew Choice 60) @ 182 days/year = $76,181 +11.3%
Envoy: 1 year upgrade
Gojets: 1 Year upgrade + Hiring direct entry captains
Endeavor: 1 year upgrade
Mesa: 2.5 year upgrade
Allegiant: $118/hr $118,000/yr
XoJet: $336/day (8 on/6 off) = $70,000/yr (more days worked per year)
WheelsUp: $385/day (on/6 off) = $80,106/yr (more days worked per year)



10 Year FO:
Flexjet: $421 (PBS) @ 182 days/yr = $76,622
Netjets: $535 (7/7 & Crew Choice 60) @ 182 days/year = $97,297 +27%
Allegiant: $142/hr ≈ $142,000/yr
WheelsUp: $423/day (8 on/6 off) = $88,117/yr



15 Year FO:
Flexjet: $436 (PBS) @ 182 days/yr = $79,352
Netjets: $573.50 (7/7 & Crew Choice 60) @ 182 days/year = $104,387 +31.5%

17 yr FO
Fixed 7/7 -$77,277 (no yearly increase)
-Bi-passed by over 107 Jr first officers (that got placed into larger aircraft as Captains);
+ 6%matching 401k
+ 3.5% yearly salary bonus
+ fuel bonus
- ALL TO BE REDUCED AT WHIM WITHOUT A UNION CONTRACT
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:08 PM
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There are 13 bid periods in a year. So 64,272 first year if you work 16 days a bid period.
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Putting it that way, each bid is 28 days, so you work 16 out of every 28 days not 30.
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Spirit 5th year Captain (we don't have 5th year FO's unless by choice) $202/ hour + 2% A321 override + 11% DC= $228.70/hour X 72 guarantee X 12 bid periods= $197,600.60.
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Little over year removed from Flex now at Spirit.
104.42/hr + 2% A321 override + 11% direct contribution = 118.22/hr X 72 guarantee X 12 bid periods = $102,145

Ability to drop, swap trips with red/green is huge. Average 15-18 days off a month.

All I can say to my Flex friends is get out ASAP. Every day your losing seniority at a better company.
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Originally Posted by LloydBraun View Post
Little over year removed from Flex now at Spirit.
104.42/hr + 2% A321 override + 11% direct contribution = 118.22/hr X 72 guarantee X 12 bid periods = $102,145

Ability to drop, swap trips with red/green is huge. Average 15-18 days off a month.

All I can say to my Flex friends is get out ASAP. Every day your losing seniority at a better company.
And a far more comfortable workspace in the Airbus as well!
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Old 03-20-2018, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by HersheySquirts View Post
There are 13 bid periods in a year. So 64,272 first year if you work 16 days a bid period.
So you’re saying if you work more you get paid more? Thanks captain obvious. You’re only guaranteed 14 days per BP.
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Originally Posted by WiskeyTango View Post
So you’re saying if you work more you get paid more? Thanks captain obvious. You’re only guaranteed 14 days per BP.
If you work 16 days in a 28 day bid period, that leaves only 12 days off per BP. Can you work more, if the company chooses? Yes, but those days are going to fall on peak travel days. Really that translates to working holidays and weekends.
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What is the max that the company can force you to work on the PBS?
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Originally Posted by bjtdrvr View Post
What is the max that the company can force you to work on the PBS?
16 days per 28 day period.
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