Brody

False?

I was there - I know what I saw. And by no means was I the only one who saw it.

Hiring mins? Many of us were hired over the phone. Had things been different, I probably would have stayed. I've made a few stops in my career . . . I wasn't impressed with this place.

Guard

I would not call the place unsafe, but its a big boy program, they give you the tools to be safe but its in no means a 121 operations, you're your own dispatcher, everything is on you, that said, you have the tools to do the job. Flight followers are basically maintenance washers. Lot of work though if your use to having a dispatcher watching your every move etc.

Starbucks

So what? You don’t work at Gama anymore. If you’re going to torch a company then give details.

Das Auto

If you didn't meet the hiring mins you wouldn't have been hired would you?

So you're saying that if you weren't hired over the phone you would have stayed? Why accept the job in the first place when they called you if that's what upset you so much?

You know what you saw? Go ahead and tell us then. Did you bring your "safety" concerns to your supervisor? Submit a report to the dedicated safety department? My guess is that you didn't. Instead you make vague and false accusations on an anonymous forum.

Brody

False?

Because you're apparently smarter than everyone else - even smarter than those who might have witnessed things that you didn't.

Funny how nearly all of my class quit within the first few months. I guess I wasn't the only one who saw the culture for what it was.

I'm willing to concede that you didn't - or haven't - seen anything that alarmed you. What I find interesting is that you can't give me the same courtesy.

Starbucks

So no example, huh? Just torching. Fine. That's what most of APC users do. Just badmouth with no evidence.

1212135

Most Companies ( Even non airline companies) hire via Skype,FaceTime,etc. welcome to the 2000s.

Your whole class quit.... It wouldn’t hv anything to do with a pilot shortage and SWA,FedEx,Delta,American,Atlas,Spirit,United,UPS,A llegiant, and Regionals hiring and offering up to 58,000 dollars of bonuses.....WOULD IT????

I get it your frustrated about something that you didnt like. But go to the Delta forum or any greener pasture airline, and there are pilot *****ing over there about company contract abuse.

As any good pilot would do and if there really is unsafe working conditions say NO!

I’m sorry if GAMA made you fly IFR, clean a toilet every now and then, didn’t give you a 3 day vacation in Keywest, and made you file your own flight plan. But welcome to the 135 world..... It’s obvious yoru a true blue 121 loyalist. Where They have a person to do everything for you besides sit there and manage the FMS.

I’ll give you some free advice. I wouldn’t try to get on at Netjets,Flexjets,XOjet, and any 135 carrier. They all besides Netjet ( Which has dispatchers for flight planning) will operate the same way. All of them have paying customers that some time want to fly out of a city that’s IFR conditions and want a clean plane.

Brody

I'll dumb this down so you can understand it.


A prospective pilot for WU asked on a public forum for opinions from those who have worked (or are working) there.

Since I worked there, I offered my opinion. Some of you did - others didn't.

If you'll notice, I didn't attack anyone's opinion. Nor do I think I'm so clairvoyant that I know what other opinion-givers should have seen (or not seen) while working there.

Nor did I attack anyone's qualifications.

Nor did I make assumptions about the other posters.

Honestly, I didn't give others' opinions a second thought.

Why? Because . . . (wait for it) . . . I DON'T CARE if you share my opinion - or if our opinions are diametrically-opposed.

I just tried to do the person a favor - the same favor we've all asked before starting with a new company. You collect several opinions, weigh them based on their relevancy, and try to make an informed decision.

Now, if I were this person who originally asked the question . . . and I read some of your responses to my initial post where I stated my opinion . . . I would have serious misgivings about the pilots who fly there. Clearly, they don't tolerate differing opinions.

Safety violations or no safety violation, if I were forced to fly with a bunch of know-it-alls, I think I'd find another place to fly.

But hey - if it makes you feel better to continue to attack me, then please continue.

And if you think I care about your opinion, please reread this post

1212135

And a bunch of us are trying to inform new prospective pilots that what your saying maybe a far fetched story. I would absolutely defend you if you gave a clear reason why, but We asked for examples we don’t get any. But we are to believe something we don’t even know from you. Did managment ask you to fly below mins, fly a broken plane, lie on paperwork, put you in a holiday inn express instead of a Hilton, ask you to clean a plane, run naked down the street, do loops in the plane?????????

We have no idea if this is an HR problem or an FAA problem. So you look like a fool know matter how much you don’t care about what we say.

Most classes at any company your lucky to have 50% of the class there after 6 months for various reason: Drop outs, Wash outs, Delta offers you a job, family situation has changed. So to make foolish claims they all left bc of one mysterious incident that you can even conceal with general things like “ I was supposed to fly from XXX-YYY the weather was 230/45G99 M1/4sm Ovc001// And managment told me if I don’t theyd fire me and put me in jail”..... Makes you look stupid.

Hey I bash former companies all the time but I give clear precise reasons so a newbie can determine if this one pilots point of view would happen to me would I want to go threw it.

I’m pretty sure every pilot commenting on the post wants to believe you and address on going problems but with out any type of reasoning we have no way to make this into a company you’d want to come back in a few years if things were to change.

Let’s get down to facts:
1.We are 8/6 if that’s not something you can deal with don’t apply here.
2. Like other companies instead of buy a 500.00 plane ticket. They choose to use Skype FaceTime and or other computer tools to do an interview. If this is your issue I feel sorry for you.
3. You will fly King Airs like all planes they do have maintenance issues from time to time. They are not unsafe or being held together with duck tape.
4. The pay scales are up front when you apply. Take or leave it.
5. All family insurance is covered.
6. Yes they expect you to work as in : clean the plane restock the plane,load bags, do flight planning, check oil.
7. People from my class have left, one to fly for Delta the other a part 91 operator offered him a job to work M-F at an airport 5 miles from his house. GAMA did nothing wrong in both those case. So to insist 25% of my class quit with in 4 months because of how GAMA is would be a lie.

And it’s obvious you care about my post if you responded to it so nice try!!

Das Auto

It's also worth noting that several guys who have left here have come back. One was in my class, one was my initial IOE captain. Fortunately for those guys they were smart enough to leave on good terms and were welcomed back. It appears that you may have burned that bridge now with your false accusations on a public forum.

I'm about to enter my 5th year at Gama and for sure have days that have frustrated me, but NEVER because I was asked to do anything unsafe.
The minute that happens my resume will be spread like strip club fliers on the Vegas strip!

Legitimate gripes are fair game for perspective applicants, but spreading false rumors of a poor safety culture is doing a disservice to them.