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Old 07-14-2020, 06:11 AM   #11  
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Full article here. When coronavirus shuttered international travel this year, Thomas Flohr of VistaJet Group Holding Ltd. chose not to furlough any of his company’s employees.

“We took a bold decision and said: ‘We’re not going to lay off anyone, we’re going to keep all the employees, we’re not going to ground any airplanes,’” Flohr said. “In hindsight, it was the right decision.”

His group operates a fleet of 115 silver-and-red business aircraft and Flohr said his company is back to 85% of its pre-pandemic traffic. Much of the recent demand has come from new customers -- mainly entrepreneurs and executives seeking alternatives to commercial flying.

With no clear recovery in sight for commercial airlines, Flohr said he believes VistaJet will capitalize on growing awareness and demand for the flexibility and greater physical distancing that private jets offer.
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Full article here. When coronavirus shuttered international travel this year, Thomas Flohr of VistaJet Group Holding Ltd. chose not to furlough any of his company’s employees.

“We took a bold decision and said: ‘We’re not going to lay off anyone, we’re going to keep all the employees, we’re not going to ground any airplanes,’” Flohr said. “In hindsight, it was the right decision.”

His group operates a fleet of 115 silver-and-red business aircraft and Flohr said his company is back to 85% of its pre-pandemic traffic. Much of the recent demand has come from new customers -- mainly entrepreneurs and executives seeking alternatives to commercial flying.

With no clear recovery in sight for commercial airlines, Flohr said he believes VistaJet will capitalize on growing awareness and demand for the flexibility and greater physical distancing that private jets offer.
Chase- does XO hire directly into the Global, for VistaJet? Or is it all based on company needs at the time of class date??
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Old 07-14-2020, 07:38 PM   #13  
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Chase- does XO hire directly into the Global, for VistaJet? Or is it all based on company needs at the time of class date??
Not on the VJ side so not completely sure.

My understanding is when one applies to the VJ side you are applying for a specific slot unless there are openings on both sides and they will then ask your preference. Assignments are assigned based upon multiple factors I would assume, certainly company needs as a bigger. If one specific airplane is your desire, then let them know but it maybe a factor in being hired I would think.

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In my December 2019 class, we had 2 VJ (XOCR) new-hires. Both knew which plane they were going to when they were hired. All four of the XOAV new-hires were assigned a fleet based on need. In fact, one of the XOAV guys had his fleet changed (from X to CL30) while we were in Indoc.

Hope this helps...
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Does anyone know the preferred aircraft- the X or 300 ? Is there an advantage to flying one airframe over the other at XOJET?
Can the pilots in the X switch to the 300? Or 300 to X?
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Does anyone know the preferred aircraft- the X or 300 ? Is there an advantage to flying one airframe over the other at XOJET?
Can the pilots in the X switch to the 300? Or 300 to X?

CHALLENGER ALL DAY AND TWICE ON SUNDAY. You will thank me later. The X while fast and sporty, is small and tight up front as well as the back. It does however gain you about 35-40 mins on a transcon over the CL. The CL has over 6' of standing room, not so much on the X. Once you are on a fleet, unfortunately you cannot switch. There currently is a plan in place to allow more senior guys to bid over to the CL in small quantities but again it is extremely limited.
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Ok thanks for the info. I understand now.

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CHALLENGER ALL DAY AND TWICE ON SUNDAY. You will thank me later. The X while fast and sporty, is small and tight up front as well as the back. It does however gain you about 35-40 mins on a transcon over the CL. The CL has over 6' of standing room, not so much on the X. Once you are on a fleet, unfortunately you cannot switch. There currently is a plan in place to allow more senior guys to bid over to the CL in small quantities but again it is extremely limited.
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CHALLENGER ALL DAY AND TWICE ON SUNDAY. You will thank me later. The X while fast and sporty, is small and tight up front as well as the back. It does however gain you about 35-40 mins on a transcon over the CL. The CL has over 6' of standing room, not so much on the X. Once you are on a fleet, unfortunately you cannot switch. There currently is a plan in place to allow more senior guys to bid over to the CL in small quantities but again it is extremely limited.
With all due respect to my fellow XOer JMO127, “The X ALL DAY AND THREE TIMES ON SUNDAY“ 😎

There is a healthy pride among each of groups, just like there is any any multi fleet operations. The pay is the same so no advantage there. The X has smaller cockpit but if you want to go .92 you can’t be the size of a whale 😉. Challenger can get out of shorter runways without fuel stops vs X. X is 66 KIAS faster at altitude on average. The 300 are newer on average and the 300 FMS a bit more user friendly I’m told.

A new twist and not completely clear at this point is leaders are talking adding more aircraft to fleet...rumors are more used X’s on the market but haven’t heard about used Challengers. The latter may come at a higher price versus X and if so, more and quicker upgrade in the X fleet for new hires. That statement is caveated with the post COVIDA reality that times/circumstances can change fast.

Reality is I wasn’t asked which plane to choose before it was assigned prior to my arrival at INDOC. I was just happy to be onboard. The X has been a lot fun no doubt. You will like either thanks to the people in the fleet.

Switching from one fleet to the next until recently was not an option except at company convenience. That changed but only very slightly as flt ops was going to allow one person a year to make the switch...one has made that switch this month I believe. I wouldn’t bank on that occurring for you unless you wish to be here 10 yrs or more.
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Chase,

Is VJ still hiring for the Global position?

Thank you for all the updates!
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Old 07-25-2020, 05:02 AM   #20  
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Chase,

Is VJ still hiring for the Global position?

Thank you for all the updates!
I don’t see any VJ positions being advertised on their side for Globals or 350 pilots.

Right now only XO positions which could be either the X or 300.

BTW, for those living near Mesa AZ and Hillsboro, OR, XO has positions with GMJ Shuttle, home every night flying Intel employees between OR-SJC-AZ on a daily basis. Not everyone’s cup of tea but it fits the schedules of some. Link here to learn more and write to [email protected]

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/m...kalamazoo.html Kalamazoo use to post current info on GMJ, Send him a PM if interested possibly. This thread dates to 2016 but some of the info I still believe is current but check with Kal or write HR. https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/f...r-shuttle.html
Or check with Mr Wizard on this more recent thread. https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/f...r-shuttle.html

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