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10-19-2007 | 01:17 PM
#11
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maybe, maybe not. But the single carrier lawsuit will be files in 2008 if nneded. Heck I flew 4 rev legs with Gwiz owners on them under 91k ops. Same owners, same mangement, etc etc etc >>>>SLAM DUNK 
I'd rather it wouldn't happen, but nobody asks me LOL
I'd rather it wouldn't happen, but nobody asks me LOL
10-19-2007 | 01:39 PM
#12
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Not even close.The top 50% were hired prior to 2002. By 2013 they will all be beyond the 11 year mark.
There are approx 500 (junior) domicile pilots and 2100+ who already have HBA rights.
There are 500+ pilots who will hit the 14 year mark by the end of the contract.
The junior pilots are far from the majority.
10-19-2007 | 03:58 PM
#13
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Let's review: Separate operating certificates, separate companies incorporated in different states, separate management teams from President of the company on down, separate scheduling, dispatch, finance and HR departments, different uniforms, different ID badges......and every day another brick is put in the wall. They are serious about keeping them separate.
The case will be filed and it'll be up to the NMB to decide sometime in '09.
As for me, I would actually go from 30% of the NJI seniority list to 17% of the merged list with a fenced seat and a 20K raise from the NJA overtime policies so I'm not really worried if it does happen. I'd just rather not have to deal with some of the fallout.
10-19-2007 | 10:30 PM
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Im with you Gwiz, the fallout, would be harsh, don't want it to happen if forced, would rather it happen the right way or not at all.
As for NJACApt, if you think that 2002 hires are senior you are correct, all depends on your own definition. we have differing defs.
As for NJACApt, if you think that 2002 hires are senior you are correct, all depends on your own definition. we have differing defs.
10-22-2007 | 06:02 PM
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RTS is already fighting the single carrier and it is NOT a slam-dunk. The company has spent a lot of time, money, and effort bricking up the wall of separation and I don't expect any change in the status of the pilot group for at least another three years.
Just saying it or thinking it or wishing it will not make it so. Of course the 1108 leadership is telling you it's a slam-dunk. They want the membership to concentrate on the other elements of the IBB because it is a good deal overall for the group. Section 30 is only an option and I don't see it happening.
Just saying it or thinking it or wishing it will not make it so. Of course the 1108 leadership is telling you it's a slam-dunk. They want the membership to concentrate on the other elements of the IBB because it is a good deal overall for the group. Section 30 is only an option and I don't see it happening.
10-23-2007 | 07:58 AM
#16
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Hold on there pardner.... I want to make it perfectly clear that the 1108 Leadership has never said or suggested anything of the sort. In fact, the only thing any of them has said on record is that the Single Carrier Petition will be filed in 2008 -- that's it, nothing more. Ease up on the conspiracy theories okay??
We're in 100% agreement on this point.
We're in 100% agreement on this point.
10-23-2007 | 05:48 PM
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Well, its over now. LOA came out about 2 hours ago. NJI and NJA will be merged by NOV 2010. All new hires to the G's will come from NJA ranks starting Nov 08. 1 out of 3 capt until final integration by nov 2010. 1 big family soon!
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10-25-2007 | 12:36 PM
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NOT a "Done Deal"
Looks like this isn't a "done deal" as originally rumored.
10-25-2007 | 04:32 PM
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The quote done deal is from Mr. Olsen. Either it happens in 2010 with consent, or it happens in 2011 without.
I wish it wouldn't happen, now we the over 40K payscale with LX's coming and I'd be happy if the company couldn't extend the contract thru 2016.
But we all know they will
I wish it wouldn't happen, now we the over 40K payscale with LX's coming and I'd be happy if the company couldn't extend the contract thru 2016.
But we all know they will
10-26-2007 | 10:53 AM
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The quote done deal is from Mr. Olsen. Either it happens in 2010 with consent, or it happens in 2011 without.
I wish it wouldn't happen, now we the over 40K payscale with LX's coming and I'd be happy if the company couldn't extend the contract thru 2016.
But we all know they will
I wish it wouldn't happen, now we the over 40K payscale with LX's coming and I'd be happy if the company couldn't extend the contract thru 2016.
But we all know they will
Slam Dunk
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