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Old 02-19-2008, 01:46 PM
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Do any of the Frax have JS Privileges on any airlines? I am not aware if any have Air Carrier Certificates, so I don't even know if they qualify under 135, much less are on any airline authorized list. I saw FLOPS was listed for AirTran...any others?

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Old 02-19-2008, 03:35 PM
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They all have Air Carrier Certificates issued under Part 135.
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I believe CS has some limited agreements, but I know NJA has none and I don't know about any others. I know some pilots at NJA who do jumpseat from time to time, but the carriers that will allow it are few and far between. NJA does have a lot of retired airline pilots who retain pass privileges with their former carriers, but that isn't really jumpseating. Most fractional pilots will get a lot of airline miles going to and from the airplanes they fly themselves. At NJA most pilots earn between 4 and 6 domestic tickets a year. I miss jumpseating, but that is about the only thing I miss about the airlines.
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Be careful whith the term "jumpseat" I believe most are talking about codeshare (ie, riding in the back for free space available) versus true jumpseat (in the cockpit) which only 121 carriers can do on other 121. Fracs are 135 and not allowed to fly in the cockpit and very few airlines have agreements to let us fly free.
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There are some 135 operators which are CASS which they can ride up front.
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Old 02-22-2008, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bama*pilot View Post
There are some 135 operators which are CASS which they can ride up front.
At AirNet (135 Freight) we were CASS approved and eligible to ride up front. I got to ride the jump seat a few times when there was no room in the back. Personally I enjoyed the opportunity to sit up front, take in the sights and chat with the crew. Sure did beat sitting in the back of the cattle car in the middle seat, last row, against the bulkhead with two big fat sweaty guys!
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Originally Posted by Pilot_135 View Post
Be careful whith the term "jumpseat" I believe most are talking about codeshare (ie, riding in the back for free space available) versus true jumpseat (in the cockpit) which only 121 carriers can do on other 121. Fracs are 135 and not allowed to fly in the cockpit and very few airlines have agreements to let us fly free.
1. Codeshare is a marketing agreement between airlines and has nothing to do with jumpseats and pass privileges.

2. Jumpseat agreements are between 2 air carriers for travel on each others jumpseats. CASS approved carriers may ride in the actual jumpseat. Non-CASS must ride space available in the cabin.


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Originally Posted by bama*pilot View Post
There are some 135 operators which are CASS which they can ride up front.
I will second that seeing as how I did (CASS) part135. That was for a SD3 op out of Kissimmee. Go figure. I don't know how they got CASS
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They all have Air Carrier Certificates issued under Part 135.
Ummm... aren't all the fractionals operating under 91K?
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Originally Posted by fr8av8r_66 View Post
Ummm... aren't all the fractionals operating under 91K?

They have the ability to operate both ways.

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