wingnutC-17

Hello,

Does NetJets do any home basing or do you have to live in one of their pilot base cities? Any different at NetJets International?

Thanks!

lpcunity

All new hires must be at one of the 5 bases at show time. As for NJI i think that there are different bases but Im not sure. Go to NetJets website and they have some info about your questions.

eglplt

Netjets requires new hire pilots to be domiciled in DAL, TEB, CMH, PBI, or LAX. You do not need to live in those domiciles or live within a certain radius or timeframe from them. If you choose to commute, it will be on your own dime. NJI has home basing for all of its pilots.

XtremeF150

Here's two more for you. Does a new hire have a good chance of getting any of the 5 bases or is say Dallas more senior than LAX.
The other question is can you get home based after X years with NJA or do you have to switch to NJI for this?

I guess that brings one more . Can you switch from NJA to NJI and does this carry your seniority? thanks for the info guys.

XtremeF150

jtf560

It's hard to predict what bases are available for new hires at any particular time- CMH and LAX have been the hardest for them to fill so far (they didn't hire into the others for many months), but they have recently been hiring into all of the bases. Home basing is not probable for any new hire for the duration of the current contract since you need to be in the top 30% (excluding those who are already living in the 5 domiciles hired precontract). This is unlikely in the 5 years of this contract, unless they have a hard time attracting quality applicants (also not likely). Switching to NJI is probably also very unlikely since you will need to be here for 2 years before you can go and in a little over 2 years from now they have to figure out how/ if there will be integration between NJI and NJA.

If you tell them you are willing to live in any domicile and get hired quickly, you can change domiciles within the 5 as long as a position opens up or someone will swap with you. There is a possibility that more domiciles or widespread homebasing will come before the end of the contract, but I wouldn't bet on it. It is a very good job, but to take it you better be willing to live in or within driving distance of one of the 5 domiciles for at least as long as it takes to get a new contract. There are new hires driving 6 hours to get to domiciles and some paying their own way for airline tickets (can add up very fast). I moved to my domicile and I'm willing to accept it until I have more living options because I think it is the best job for me. I don't like any of the domiciles, but I know some time I'll have more options and it is well worth it to me to sacrifice now for a better future. Good luck whatever you decide.

XtremeF150

So if offered a job is the domicile known at that point or do you have to wait till the end of training? If a request for domicile is made do you have to wait for a later class date or something of this nature?
When do you hear what equipment you will be on and what is the most likely aircraft to be placed on? Thanks

XtremeF150

jtf560

You know the base you will have before they interview you if you list a specific base as where you are willing to live on the domicile preference form you send in with the application packet. If you are willing to live anywhere, they will probably let you know before you even interview or at the latest they will let you know by the time of the job offer (usually the day after you go from from the interview). Some people get a choice for which airplane they will get and some don't. I didn't. I don't know why some do and some don't for sure, but probably it goes by giving choices to the first people called with job offers and then the last people called get whatever slots are left that need to be filled. Right now we are getting more XLSs than any other airplane so this year they are putting about 1/3 of the newhires into the Excel/ XLS. They haven't been putting anyone into the Ultra or Hawker 400 lately, but things change all the time. I think we are getting some more 400s now so they will probably be putting more into again soon. If I had a choice knowing what I know now I would have chosen the Excel since it pays better than all the others for newhires and I need the money (FOs get an extra $225 a month since they fly the Excel and XLS and they require some small differences training.) If I didn't need the extra cash I would have chosen the Falcon since they have a flight attendant to make the FOs life a lot easier. The X is pretty cool, but they work at least as hard as the Excels and they don't get any extra pay (except overtime since they fly so many long days).

XtremeF150

Thanks for the info. Now why does the XLS get more? I thought all the F.O.'s where the same except the 2000EX and BBJ's? Is the XLS a category 4 aircraft or something? You said the Falcon's had FA's...Is that the only aircraft with FA's? If you have time you think you could explain the reserve system within NJA? Of course if your tired of answering all the questions feel free to let me know that too

XtremF150

Bengalsfan

I'm not at NJA, but have asked all your questions, in hopes that someday I am.

XLS gets more, because you fly it and another plane that is very similar... but you get paid more because you go through the diference training and fly both.

I think only the Falcons and BBJs have FAs... mabye the G2?

The reserve system is not like the airlines. When on that schedule you get a different schedule at the begining of every month, which can not exceed 18 days of work. You get something like 4 "hard" days off that you choose.

NJA peeps... feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but that is how I understand it after asking most of those questions myself.

GB

jtf560

Bengalsfan is mostly right. The Falcon and BBJ at NJA and all the G-IVs + Vs at NJI have flight attendants, but customers can request a FA for any airplane on any flight if they want to pay extra. I think the G-200s were going to have them, but the performance wasn't going to be as good with the extra body on all flights, but the interior is very nice and big inside that one.

The pilots who fly the Excel also fly the XLS since they don't make Excels anymore and we are getting lots of XLS and they are very, very similar (very easy differences training, but I guess different enough to pay me more).

The 18 day schedule changes from month to month and throughout the month. You choose 4 hard days off in the month (I think by the 13th of the month before) in blocks of 2 or 4 (at least 7 days between hard days if used in blocks of 2 and you can stack your 4 hard days at the end of the month with your 4 hard days the next month at the beginning to guarentee 8 in a row off if you want). They can keep you out for up to 7 days in a row and if they keep you the full 7 they have to give you at least 4 days off before working again and they have to give you at least 3 days off for any trip less than 7 days. They were putting up prospective schedules that were pretty close for a while, but they stopped when people complained too much about their schedules changing (though the contract specifically states they can change it at any time as long as they give you the specified days off depending on how many days you work and what your hard days off are.) I'm on 7 + 7 now, but I liked the 18 day schedule when I did it (my wife wanted more definite days off for me so I made the change). The only times I did the full 18 was when I voluntarily extended for lots more money and I was even able to extend a couple of months and still not work the full 18. 7+7 is the default schedule here and almost anybody who wants it will get it, but at least 10 percent must be on the 18 day schedule- and since it pays better there have been very few junior assigned to the 18 day schedule. There are ways of maximizing your days off on the 18 day schedule by strategic hard day bids to get nearly a 7 + 7 schedule with 18 day pay (it doesn't always work, but it worked most of the times I tried).