Fractionals and pilot age.

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05-02-2016, 11:37 AM

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Sailaway

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Nacho, do you even bother to read the posts before you start spewing. You just get worse and worse.

05-02-2016, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nachomamma

... this greedy old codger...

Regardless of whether they're greedy, or just made poor investments, doesn't the Netjets pilot union have a committee that looks into medical/physical (not just age related) issues of pilots' fitness for duty? Or is this a company committee?

05-02-2016, 12:06 PM

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Unions don't investigate anyone's fitness to fly. That's for your flight surgeon to determine.

05-02-2016, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Packrat

Unions don't investigate anyone's fitness to fly. That's for your flight surgeon to determine.

Uh....I don't think you understand the issue. I believe NJASAP does have a committee that does exactly that. The flight surgeon evalutates pilots on the day of the medical exam, the union (company?) committee deals with longer trends.

05-02-2016, 04:20 PM

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It might be a company committee with union members. Never heard of a real union that would do that. Now, maybe with an in house faux Union it would be a possibility.

05-04-2016, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by minimwage4

There's a sharp curve tho with the experience to actually performing your job ratio at around 65. Your mind isn't as sharp...

So you must be 65+? You sound like you know this from your own personal experience.

05-04-2016, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by flyinhawyan

You sound like you know this from your own personal experience.

Yep. Flown with plenty in 60's and few 70's. Spent a lot of time checking, double checking, fixing mistates...etc.
But I am NOT throwing stones because I will be there one day and am going to need a sharp young buck to fly with who will do the same for me.

(Yes some are still sharp but it is a perishable skill)

05-05-2016, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 727C47

73, he was a retired Delta guy, sharp as a tack, and I was shocked when I found out how old he was, he flew F-4's in the Nam, great stick, and good guy to have a beer with too, he has great genes, and will leave when it's his time I reckon, that's his choice,his business, it's really no one else's.

I would say this depends on the equipment and the job. If you're climbing into the front of something large vs. a King Air it may not even be close to the same experience. I've been with a couple of older gents the last few months. One simply simply couldn't pull his weight with the physical side of the job (loading over sized bags in the joke of a baggage space we have, getting on your hands and knees changing a lav - all while it's 120 degrees in the plane on the ramp.) They could actually FLY just fine. Just couldn't do anything else. I was extremely frustrated by the end of the week. So, as much as I don't want it to, it becomes the other pilots business.