I wish you guys all the best and success in getting a good contract....
But if i were in your shoes, i'd vote with my feet. AA, DL and UAL want YOU.

 

I'd love to see frontier brought to it's knees by attrition and lack of new hires.

 

That sounds great on paper. My resumé also looks great on paper. That doesn't pay the bills though. Many of us have been applying for years with no success. I think I began putting my apps out in 2011.

 

+++++

Don't give up.
They pay attention to updates and are hiring +/- 40 off the street some months. We've seen guys coming from Spirit, JB, Allegiant and Alaska lately.
Keep after it!

 

I update nearly every day on the road. Sitting in a bad hotel out by the airport is motivating.

 

+1!!!
If I had a few more years left, and some other non monetary issues, I'd be making getting hired at a Legacy my full time job.

I wish you all well on your job search beyond F9! The ONLY way we F9 diehards get a red cent more from Indigo than we do today, much less an "industry standard" contract, is when the RLA clock is run to the end or if the current contract fails to attract and retain enough willing & able pilots to execute on the business plan's flying.

This is the smartest most ruthless management team we've gone up against in the almost 20 years I've been here. Emotion, humanity or "what's right" don't enter into their thinking. Their business plan is the most predictable plan we've seen - and the most (only?) profitable one. If they must give some of their money to us, it will only be when they are forced to. Period.

I asked one of the pilots who recruits for F9 at job fairs what they are telling pilots to attract them to F9. They didn't have an answer. I hear that the HR Director's husband, a senior F9 pilot, is doing interviews now. He's also been quoted as saying that we are currently overpaid. So there's that.

 

That dude is a card carrying member of the A'holes For Life Society, so hell yeah, let him recruit and people will definitely think twice about working for F9 when he's the welcome wagon.

 

Flew a PVR turn with him weeks out of IOE. He ended up on my no-fly before we even left the gate in DEN.

 

Capt Peters doing interviews? That's funny. Wouldn't surprise one bit.

A guy I flew with told me that Capt Peters told him that he's untouchable. Who needs CRM when you're married to the head of HR. Seems like a safety issue to me. Especially when you're number one on the no-fly list.

 

I cringe every time I hear: "Until they have trouble attracting and keeping pilots..." If it really must come to that, then we're screwed because the barrel is deep, and as a narrow-body operator I doubt they'll ever truly run out of candidates.