Frontier Negotiations Discussion
06-08-2018, 08:25 PM
#1831
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 146
Originally Posted by CantStayAway
^ This.
“Someone is going to do it, so it might as well be me” is a weak excuse for stepping on your fellow pilots for personal gain.
The 3 things that are needed to get a contract done according to ALPA are 1) A company that can afford to pay, 2) A strong pattern to bargain with, and 3) A unified pilot group. We’ve only got 2/3. Record attendance at a picket is great and all, but guess where it really matters?
“Someone is going to do it, so it might as well be me” is a weak excuse for stepping on your fellow pilots for personal gain.
The 3 things that are needed to get a contract done according to ALPA are 1) A company that can afford to pay, 2) A strong pattern to bargain with, and 3) A unified pilot group. We’ve only got 2/3. Record attendance at a picket is great and all, but guess where it really matters?
06-09-2018, 05:26 AM
#1833
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 50
Originally Posted by ReserveCA
I don’t believe we will EVER be released.....take advantage of what you can or are willing to.
Enjoy your summer!
06-09-2018, 05:54 AM
#1835
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 664
Originally Posted by Leslie Chow
If you truly believe we will never be released, then you need to use the only leverage we have: fly the contract, run an ultra-safe operation, and, of course, fly the absolute minimum you are contractually able.
06-09-2018, 08:05 AM
#1836
Slave
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Position: Hot tub
Posts: 1,348
Originally Posted by Stiflers Mom
I thought you kept your phone off while working in your shop? Sitting on Flica waiting for the latest incentivized trip to drop so you can call scheduling 1 second later is no way to spend your life. BTW, time to rescind LOA 65 and actually make crew scheduling do their job and call every pilot in accordance with VJA/JA.
Enjoy your summer!
Enjoy your summer!
06-11-2018, 05:49 AM
#1838
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Joined APC: Mar 2010
Posts: 387
Originally Posted by CantStayAway
Not really. Huge leverage would come from canceled flights due to lack of crew. If they follow the VJA/JA process people will still pick it up, but they’ll just make more with the override for VJA/JA.
The company is laughing all the way to the bank over our special children picking up incentivized flying. EVERY pilot on property would need to credit 110 hours per month to equal our last ask. A handful of pilots grabbing incentive is cheaper for Indigo - by far.
06-11-2018, 08:07 AM
#1839
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 617
Originally Posted by F9 Driver
A handful of pilots grabbing incentive is cheaper for Indigo - by far.
I’m actually impressed with how unified the Spirit pilots were. Not in the nuance of how they went about it, but actually banding together for a common cause.
06-11-2018, 11:25 AM
#1840
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Joined APC: May 2013
Position: CRJ-200 CA
Posts: 434
Originally Posted by F9 Driver
Scheduling doesn't have the staffing to FOLLOW the VJA/JRA process without pilots' help.
The company is laughing all the way to the bank over our special children picking up incentivized flying. EVERY pilot on property would need to credit 110 hours per month to equal our last ask. A handful of pilots grabbing incentive is cheaper for Indigo - by far.
The company is laughing all the way to the bank over our special children picking up incentivized flying. EVERY pilot on property would need to credit 110 hours per month to equal our last ask. A handful of pilots grabbing incentive is cheaper for Indigo - by far.
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